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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > Covid or something else
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Post by lb1temporary on Feb 11, 2021 8:14pm

Covid or something else

  Q4/20 Q3/20
     
Gl 7500 16 8
others 28 16
Total 44 24
     
     
Revenues 2 248 M$ 1 405 M$
     
EBITDA -1 114 M$


The Covid was there in the third quarter. With close to 50% less deliveries they made positive EBITDA. 

The COVID explanation for Q4 doesn't works.

They said in the conference call that they expect that GL 7500 will reach a positive contribution level somewhere in 2021.  My understanding is that the GL 7500 had a negative margin in 2020 possibly by a two digit %.
Comment by Zimmee1 on Feb 11, 2021 9:02pm
Excellent post. Following the graphic above, it was a very strange day for this company as shareholders were expecting the share price jumps higher from her previous close on Wednesday @ $0.73. The SP should have been open at least at the minimum $0.85? The bottom line, apparently some analysts don't like Bombardier stocks for a multitude of reasons or perhaps something else? We realize this ...more  
Comment by PabloLafortune on Feb 11, 2021 10:17pm
1B1, this is more or less what I shared earlier replying to my good friend 859. For whatever reason, we dont know what happened in Q4. It could be as simple as they wrote off a bunch of inventory for example. I have a little bit of experience with this stuff, I don't like this Q4 and I don't like the situation facing EM going forward. Fix part of the debt and interest cost somehow asap at ...more  
Comment by joeman on Feb 12, 2021 1:50am
they cooked the books is the answer.
Comment by Lukegermany on Feb 12, 2021 4:13am
I don't know if i understand this right, but in my opinion they took extra charges in Q4. Thats the reason why the ebitda dont look good despite 44 deliveries. I believe that 2021 will be looking good and it will be better than expected. They told every time they are prudent or conservative in their plans, i buy yesterday some more shares because i trust Bart an Eric. We will see if i am ...more  
Comment by lb1temporary on Feb 12, 2021 5:52am
Fine , thanks to add some color.. More, In the Q3 CC they complain about the 2014/2015 introductory prices of these deliveries. With all of this we could understand the negative margin. They explain too that we have to wait 2023 for a full contribution of the Gl 7500.
Comment by PabloLafortune on Feb 12, 2021 9:29am
Luke, thanks for that. Did they say how much charges they took?
Comment by Shamhorish on Feb 12, 2021 7:22am
JOEMAN,   YOU SAI "they cooked the books is the answer." IF TRUE, could it Dibert doing , and Martel found out and then fired dibert end of Q3,2020???? or do you think martel is envolved too???
Comment by Shamhorish on Feb 12, 2021 7:12am
GOOD POINT AS YOU MENTIONED " REVENUE 1 405 M$   EBITDA 114 M$ Revenue 2 248 M$ EBITDA-1 M$   " ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ,   
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