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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > Last time on the debt
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Post by BBDB859 on Jul 18, 2021 9:43am

Last time on the debt

Dude.

How much clearer can I be, for you to get it????

I would least expect you here on this board of posters not to understand what I have posted for 3 times to you.

Every response to you has clearly been explained.

You're the only poster here not understanding, and questioning this? Don't assume others don't understand it. They would have questioned me if they didn't understand it. You're the only one that keeps on this line of questioning like a dog on a bone.

The $3.4 was cash on hand at the moment. It included the $1.2B raised recently. That $1.2B is spoken for, it's earmarked for the unterdered blocks of the Junk Bond LTD stragglers, for 2022/3. You were told this on the very first post. Read it. So it doesn't change the Total Long Term Debt. TLD is stil $7.3, and when the $1.2 from the $3.4 on hand is used up to pay for the untendered blocks of LTD, the cash on hand goes back to $2.2, so it doesn't change a thing. 

Think of it (the extra $1.2B on hand) as a renegotiating of your mortgage. That's what it is here. It's renegoting or replacing or discharging of the existing Mort. When the new Bank gives the money. You suddenly have extra cash in your account. So now you have to give it to the old Existing Mortgagee to discharge your old mortgage. 

Maybe you dodn't need to see this step. I think you're past it.

So now we have $2.2B approx., on hand, and a LTD of $7.3B in LTD.

Don't even worry about NET DEBT. Bombardier or some bank rating the Bomber, will tell us what that is in Q2. It could differ from what u and I think it is anyway.

Don't assume anything else.

Finished.
Comment by Jim99999 on Jul 18, 2021 11:04am
So you started off saying they had $7.3B debt and $3.4B cash. Now you're saying they have $7.3B debt and $2.2B cash. We are close to agreeing. Thank you. Jim
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 18, 2021 5:02pm
Jim. I don't need you to agree with me, nor do I get any satisfaction, from your approval of my posts. If you don't understand, what I'm posting for what ever reason? Whether I was unclear, or you couldn't follow what I'm saying? You have a right to ask for an explanation. Which you have done so. I have tried to explained it well in the first post and then tried to to do it ...more  
Comment by Jim99999 on Jul 18, 2021 6:07pm
Hey BBDB859, please understand I am not trying to give you a hard time here. Also, please accept that I have at least as good of a grasp on the numbers as you do.  My purpose in questioning you was to clarify for the board what the numbers are. Your original post was confusing, because you said cash on hand was $3.4B and LTD was $7.3B. I understand what you were thinking when you said that ...more  
Comment by HopefulJuan on Jul 18, 2021 7:56pm
You are here Jim99999 to spread fear and drag up issues from the past that are not applicable to the current situation. BBD share price continues to be sold at distress levels when that is not the case. Move quickly though as the quarterly results will once again prove the future is promising.Not interested in a debate.
Comment by Jim99999 on Jul 18, 2021 8:11pm
If you believe that is why I am here, you haven't been paying attention. Jim
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 18, 2021 10:55pm
Jim. I'll take one last kick at the can with you on what I've posted for your sake, and for those that you say, may be confused on this board, from that post. Although, I think you are not giving enough credit to some of the posters here, because a lot of them are very knowledgeable here. They don't always express it, and post it, but over the years I've learned many things here ...more  
Comment by Jim99999 on Jul 18, 2021 11:57pm
Ok, this is the last time I will say this. They raised $1.2B and $260M, not $1.2B and $510M. There is no other $250M.   Do you agree that there is $514M remaining on the Oct 2022 issue? Do you agree that there is $534M remaining on the Jan 2023 issue? I know you do, you already said it yourself. They are at those numbers because the $1.46B they raised has already been used to pay ...more  
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