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Bombardier Inc. > CIBC Economics Not Bullish On Aerospace
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Post by Greenday on Mar 21, 2022 4:12pm

CIBC Economics Not Bullish On Aerospace

Despite an overlap in commodities exports with Russia, Canada is unlikely to experience a significant GDP bump this year as a result of the war in Ukraine, a report from CIBC Economics says.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine will likely lead to higher inflation and slower growth for the global economy this year. For Canada, the surge in energy prices hasn’t translated to a boost for the loonie, as reduced capital spending means a smaller role for the energy sector in overall GDP.
 

Higher food and energy prices will likely push Canadian inflation above 6%, the report said. And while pandemic savings will provide a cushion, some of that money has been spent on down payments for houses or invested in retirement savings.

“In the near term, even for a resource exporter like Canada, the impact of higher inflation on consumers, and slower global growth on non-resource exporters, is likely to counter any wins for commodities sectors,” the report said.

While Russia’s exports — which include gold, wheat, aluminum and wood in additional to oil and gas — overlap significantly with Canada’s, almost half of Canada’s goods exports are not resource-related, the report said. High energy prices and a slowing global economy could hurt other important Canadian export sectors such as aerospace, motor vehicles and parts, and machinery.

While the authors noted the old saying about Canadians being “hewers of wood and drawers of water,” the hewing has fallen off in recent years. As for oil, the Canadian industry seems focused on “conservative capital spending plans and returning profits to shareholders, with modest growth for output and capital spending this year,” the report said.

Fertilizer producers could see higher prices for a more extended period, and there are opportunities for Canadian firms to increase production, it said, though rail strikes pose a risk.

Wheat prices could remain high with the Ukrainian harvest in doubt. While drought in the Prairies remains a risk, CIBC said Canadian production is likely to grow this year with the higher prices for the crop.

Canada’s liquid natural gas sector could benefit longer term from bans of Russian LNG, though the largest Canadian project is still three years from production, the report said. A gap in global LNG supply could accelerate that timetable or hasten other projects, but these would “come online in the last few years of this decade, and aren’t therefore relevant to current macroeconomic views of Canada.”

When it comes to mining, capital spending plans in Canada were already at their highest in a decade before Russia’s invasion, but ramping up production is still a “long-term project,” the report said. The conflict could lead to growth in uranium output as the world looks for suppliers outside of Russian and Kazakhstan.

Overall, while certain commodities sectors stand to gain, the hit to other export sectors from the war and the higher costs for consumers will likely cancel out any economic benefits.

The longer-term effects could be more significant, the report said, if buyers in various sectors start to look for politically safer options.

“While this will be a story that will play out over several years, and not a big gift to Canada for 2022 GDP, the realignment of trade flows could be a winner for this country if we capitalize on those opportunities,” it said.

 

Comment by clubhouse19 on Mar 21, 2022 5:19pm
Green day or shud I say liar ? Where does it say on that paste that you just posted that CIBC is not bullish on Aerospace... Make at least an attempt to to properly post BS !!
Comment by lb1temporary on Mar 21, 2022 6:46pm
You're right Club. Last week CIBC published 2 analysis favorable to airlines: The first about the pent-up demand: The conclusion:    ''The ending line in a recent Expedia commercial is “Do you think any of us will look back on our lives and regret the things we didn’t buy or the places we didn’t go?” This sums up our positive view on the recovery we expect to see in ...more  
Comment by flamingogold on Mar 21, 2022 8:01pm
That is a great (Superbowl) Expedia commercial that plays on the YOLO mentality. We can all buy a thinner TV and a smarter smartphone, stuff we quickly forget about as time goes by. But travel opens the door to memories that last forever and that's money better spent.
Comment by Greenday on Mar 21, 2022 9:22pm
@ ib1temporary - It's important for retail investors to be able to distinguish between different kinds of reports if they want to make money. You posted reports from CIBC stock anaysts that cover Expedia and Air Canada.  The article that I posted cites CIBC macro economists.  Those are two very difffernt types of reports.  Without getting too deep into the weeds on the ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Mar 21, 2022 10:58pm
Maybe you should  illustrate what you post rather than make-up headlines that do not exist!!  I have been around your kind for so long who attempt to make up their own reality and treating opinions rtaher than self serving fiction as its clearly there what you copied and pasted.
Comment by Greenday on Mar 22, 2022 12:14am
@ clubhouse19 - You're not even making sense.  However, I'd encourage you to take some remedial writing classes.  That way you could write the economists at CIBC and tell them that they know nothing.  Go for it gramps!  Get up on your soapbox and tell them who you are.  lol.
Comment by bago on Mar 22, 2022 6:46am
The little guy probably drives a big old car sitting  on a couple of pillows. He is confrontational and comes across as an angry little man. The nobody guy is clueless and very green if you ask me. He is just a puppet. They post here on one board and hope and dream that one day they make a huge return. BBD could go down to a dime and they would still be here saying the great job BBD is doing ...more  
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Mar 22, 2022 9:12am
Bago - Here's something you wrote earlier: 'I stop posting on SH for  few years because of this type of stuff. Not interested in these school yard games played here.' and then you write some schoolyard stuff yourself Nice to see someone that practices what he preaches
Comment by clubhouse19 on Mar 22, 2022 10:27am
This is what the headline reads Canada unlikely to see GDP bump from commodities boom   Now of course you can make up what you wish by not publishing the actual written facts https://www.advisor.ca/news/economic/canada-unlikely-to-see-gdp-bump-from-commodities-boom/
Comment by gas61di56 on Mar 22, 2022 10:50am
How can Bombardier be affected by this kind of news? They are already sold out for the next 2 years, and most of their sales are outside Canada. Not sure if I see the relevance here.
Comment by clubhouse19 on Mar 22, 2022 11:43am
  The relevance here is that Green day tried to lie his way through this piece by putting up his own headline on the  piece and stating that it referred to Aerospace which is a lie !!    Quite evident in his fake post https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.bbd.a/bombardier-inc-class-a?postid=34532457
Comment by gas61di56 on Mar 22, 2022 11:51am
Ok I see...
Comment by Greenday on Mar 22, 2022 12:07pm
@ clubhouse19 - Are you trying to say that the economists at CIBC are bullish on the aerospace sector?  Because the article clearly states that they are not.
Comment by clubhouse19 on Mar 22, 2022 12:13pm
You are clearly misrepresenting the facts as you state in your fabricated headline since they don't even mention Aerospace . You're fake arguement is clearly that !!! FAKE !! as is your fake headline or TOPIC !! Clearly a lie no matter how you try to spin it like a circular firing squad. End of story so get lost !!
Comment by Greenday on Mar 22, 2022 12:02pm
@ gas61di56 - The relevance is that stocks don't trade completely independent of their peer group.  They usually trade in a range relative to the trading multiple of their peers for the simple fact that investors make comparisions between similar stocks.  Buying a car would be an analogy.  If you had a choice between a Ford and a Chev, you'd make your choice on the relative ...more  
Comment by gas61di56 on Mar 22, 2022 12:13pm
Thanks for the explanation. While we’re at it. Is there a possibility that a stock multiples could change drastically due to better performance in a group, even if it would just be a catch-up to their peers? Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems there could be a real adjustment to the upside here if they continue performing the way they are now...JMO
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Mar 22, 2022 12:33pm
Gas - an adjustment is possible but drastic because of other in group, no. For a drastic adjustment it would have to do with the company's performance itself being viewed in a better light and thus people thinking that it is now 'undervalued'. I believe that this is Bombardier's actual situation. You are not wrong imho. Others will say that you are wrong but be wary of traders ...more  
Comment by Greenday on Mar 22, 2022 12:58pm
@ gas61di56 - BBD could absolutely outperform.  I'm not sure if the consensus is for it to outperform but its certainly been rated as such by some analysts.  Remember though that that's within the context of everything else that's going on.  Outperform relative to the sector but not necessarily outperform compared to the broader market.  CIBC's economists are ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Mar 22, 2022 12:16pm
Another fake arguement when they talk about commodities in this piece but this turkey would spin out of control to defend his lie !!  Now get lost for the last time.. Iggy no time for this twisting liar !!
Comment by Inuk138 on Mar 22, 2022 12:28pm
I read the post four times and didn't see anything about the aerospace industry, why is it mentioned in the title, to scare investors? to falsely alarm or just to be falsely clever? There is nothing in the text to justify the title. A useless text with a falsely provocative title.
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Mar 22, 2022 12:39pm
Haven't looked myself but with all the stuff i've seen from GD I would put any money on what he's implying. Migth be a good trader, or whatever he might claim to be but he's twisting stuff...like a conspiracy theorist. Funny how some guys, when they don't have any arguments about the 'micro', resort to all kind of macro stuff to stand on their soapboxes.
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Mar 22, 2022 12:41pm
lol... 'wouldn't put any money...'  hell of a mistake that needed to be corrected there. 
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