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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Post by BBDB859 on Apr 07, 2022 11:01am

Bago

My reply to you in yellow

bago wrote: Your post isn't quite truthful like you say.
Show me where I said 2 million and wrong when I said few?

Answered already. A few million in English is 2 million. A couple of Million is 3M.


Also I have only seen one poster here which says he is short or may short
so how are you and other perma bulls balancing out the so called truth you speak of.

Big history with this poster I pointed out. But he's part of the BIG shorting problem. Besides him, every day we get idiots that keep coming here on this board, saying this is a Turd. This stock is garbage. If it's so bad? Why do they even invest in it. Don't buy it period? If you have a trading gig? then STFU and take your doe an FO.


Why is is I am a basher when i own a ton of stock and have concerns on the 
share price and current global economic environment as well as the bombers debt
level and rising costs.

First of all I don't think you're a basher. We've had a few exchanges, trading posts Back & Forth, so u may be LEGIT. The world will always have something going on. The war is the current thing. Before that it was Covid. Personally, If Covid didn't sink the Bomber, in fact it thrived. Then this war at the other side of the world, will not. The 6% exposure to CIS is already taken out of the equation, by moving other orders up on the Backlog. You've been told that here, many times. If you are a true Investor you'd pay attention, or deduce that, because it's an important fact for you to know, about your investment safety?

I realize there is some shorting going on 
like many other stocks but so what. The bomber has traded down now 6 of 7 days so
if the company is doing so well where are the buyers to offset the shorting and maybe force 

This is a very IMPORTANT question. I'm not the most knowledgeable guy about the stock market mechanics. But I'll try to answer in pieces. I suspect that what is happening here this time around is. This Company is doing well in it's Fundementals right now. RIGHT??. Ok so they're was a lot of Buying too by Management, for the past year from the $68M Buyback. So the SP started to climb, because the Buys outnumbered the sells. These Shorts unloaded at higher #'s. Perfect weather for SP increase as the Sorts let the SP go. So here comes Dec.2021, then Jan., 2022, then Feb.,2022 where the Bomber Financials are stellar. Great in Fact. Yet the SP starts to Fall way back in Dec. 202, (SHORTING, HAKED SHORTING) and  the Sellers outnumber the Buying way before the announcement of the Financials in Feb 2021. You explain that me? How does a company's SP that's climbing at the time, with good NEW Fundememntals, and new $400M announced PAYDOWN of LTD in 2022, on top of $$3.5B Paydown on LTD, already made in 2021, the year before, suddenly making good small +CFC pofit of $150M for 2021 as a stand alone Pure Play, suddenly become an out of Favour stock for Investors??? Answer. They Shorted the SHITE OF IT. In fact the ("Naked Shorters") can't leave the stock to flourish a little bit, with there GREADY Penny trading daily. Why??? Because they don't want to lose to the BUY side. They want to control the SP. Why did they let it climb to $2.27?? Because they were Selling into the upside for more value from the guaranteed Bomber BUYBACK from the cheap shares they bough in the 25 to 50 cents range, from the previous years of shorting the SHITE out of it.

 
some covering. Where is some insider buying at these levels? I see only a couple of
posters here that are just bearish to get a rise and that's not even LE as you all focus on
and attack the guy.

Some covering occured yes??? Covering for these idiot shorts, has to happen as low as possible not at higher prices. So that's another reason they Shorted the Shite out of it from $2.27 down to $1.20. Just so that they don't have to cover at the high $2.20's. This "Naked Shorting" btw happened in this short time because they had to cover, because of Exchange Rules.



What happens on green days that offset the shorting? (differrence)?

The Shorters are in control, so they allowed it climb by NOT shorting on the upside. To make it appear as if things are normal. If the Buying isn't there? They trade to eachother to make trades, appear Legit. They have nothing to lose. One of their Companies SELLS, and ther other Company BUYS. This is a big RACKET. This isn't a Micky Mouse outfit. When they trade in Pennies or Half Pennies, they need huge volumes. They know how to Manipulate huge Volumes. How do all the OIL companies in Canada have the same price for gas every day? They communicate with eachother, and Collude.


This is a tough business with tight margins so they will need perfect execution and 
exceed expectations if anything to get investors back.

Yes you're right. Percission is the key. But this is what we're getting from this EM/BD management Combo. The business is flourishing. Don't need to tell you that 2021 was the first year since 2010 that Bombardier showed a +fcf of $150M for a Fiscal Year. In fact IF these PARASITES will leave this SP alone, the Share Price will flourish too. But we still need to see a few years of GOOD FINANCIALS from EM/BD.

You call yourself a straight shooter but not so straight, intentional or not? Some posters here like to twist words and attack anyone with stating concerns or maybe not as bullish as some.

Look I call a spade a spade. If something smells. I point it out. And something smells here it's the "Naked Shorting". It's just not right. When things were going BAD for the Bomber fro 2018/19/20. I understood the low SP. But 2021 is great and 2022 will be great too, even if we have a strong CAPEX to pay for Service Centers/Pearson. EM even said that for 2022. He said don't expect too much +FCF. So I expect $50M for 2022


I am nuetral right now
and not leaning to either side, why is that so bad and how is that designed to scare innocent
posters lol? You mean like the ones who attack and curse others and call them liars and so forth.

Look. I'm NUETRAL as well. Just like you. That's the truth. When i first got on this Stockhoue site, you should have seen the abuse I got, by the Francophones here. You have to rise above that, and contribute. Don't contribute if you don't know your contribution is wrong. But you gotta take the good with the bad. You have your IGNORE button to help there. Even if some posters appear to be bad, you gotta see what their input is here. These good posters that inform us, and help us with our investment, get tired of idiots too. These Embiciles as I call them that come here and have Shite for Brains, can be seen in their posts. Use your IGGY button and get to know which posters are sensible, and which are NOT worth your time. As for LE. I gave him a chance when he first got here. But he was abnoxious to me He started contributing some good stuff, but then started the stulidities again, So back on IGGY he goes. My board is now clear free from Pararsites & Parasite lovers.


Give me a break with your innocense and shoot straight like you say. There is a threat of recession and 
the bomber is not immune sorry to tell you.

Look Bago. Recessions affect everybody. I think one is building momentum right now. Keep cash on hand to buy cheaper. This Inflation was artificial, and things will calm down. But we have idiots like Poutine, that throw gas on the fire too. Regardless of the idiology of this war, it wasn't the time for it, for this Covid world. As for Bombardier & Recessions. Don't worry so much. The RICH have money & they'll spend it on toys. Plus the Bomber has a huge 2 year Backlog. They will grow that every year, or at worse have 1 to 1 Book to Bill ratio going forward, and still have all that Backlog. They're even going to increase production in 2023. As you may know?? Those production increases will increase every Financial Metric for the company. It will leave the company with more profits, more cash to manouvre with, and more cash to pay down LTD. The SP thing will take care of itself too. But I just don't want to have my SHARE ERODED by this R/S. Just because these Shorts have us by the chessnuts. Doesn't mean that a year from now the Investment community won't start seeing the Bomber positives, and start Buying. I still stand by what I say. Let the SP be, for 2 years, and keep growing the Financials. The R/S isn't a priority right now. It doesn't solve the real problem. The Investment community wants to see, at least 2 to 3 years of GREAT Numbers. EM/BD deliver what you're capable of. Think of it this way. If they get through 2022, then "the skies will be Blue" (Bicente). They may couple the good Financials of 2023, along with another $60M buy back, and take the SP up. Once they do that, giving the SP some momentum, then they can do a smaller say 3 for 1 R/S at a higher price. Less Erosion But remember that the Management has promissed to give Shareholders Value. So this R/S will become more visible soon, and we'll get more clarity in Q1/2022.


Is a matter of
fact looking at the trading action more at risk than most. I've been around SH for over 23 years as you can see and that doesn't make me a genius but must know 
something about this game right?


Your knowledge comes through in your posts. Not my place to tell you what to do. But you asked for this, with all your questions. Keep contributing with your strengths as others do. And learn from others, on things you don't know. Cheers 859. 
Comment by clubhouse19 on Apr 07, 2022 11:06am
859 I am more interested in banking stocks this AM as they are all getting hit hard. Just checking when i will pull the trigger in buying more CIBC considering the split coming and the surtax. BTW A couple is 2 and a few is relative, depending on the what base it is compared.
Comment by bicente on Apr 07, 2022 11:37am
yup ... my order is in at $145.50 for CM-C ... might not get there  but that's what I did  this AM ... I traded some TD into the run up of the dividend date  , now just holding onto it even though it took a dip... GLTA  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Apr 07, 2022 12:48pm
I have it in at 145.10...we'll see what happens after the budget  Split is approved for shareholders of record on may 6. Will it go lower  have to keep a close eye on it. Some say it cud hit into the 130.'s  has a much lower float than other banks so much more volatile. 
Comment by bicente on Apr 07, 2022 12:56pm
it could drop after the budget but in the long run ( after split)  it will still be profitable ... banks always seem to churn out profits , higher interest rates might be quite  profitable for them ...big rush to build housing ... I'm working on opening up a street and this is the first time our burrough  counsel will listen to our demands ... whatever state the economy is in ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Apr 07, 2022 1:17pm
Its possible that all that budget news of 3 % surtax is built into the drop now.    Down over 20.00 from the recent high.  If there is no worse news in that budget...it may rebound somewhat
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 07, 2022 2:45pm
Good for you. You will see more of that happening. Take advantage of that. This push for Res developments has Ontario hopping as well. Talking about thieves. All these Municipalities/Buraucracy/red tape has come to roost. Plan, plan, plan.
Comment by bicente on Apr 07, 2022 3:07pm
Yes totally ridiculous around here ... 10 years ago I went to the city to develop this zone and the city asked  me to buy an old abandoned gas station and decontaminate it too in order to develop the street .. they almost had us caving in ... now all of a sudden the city is willing to make miracles happen in order to get the project started .... .bunch of crooks do whatever they want ... if ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 07, 2022 3:27pm
Yes sir.  10 years is good. They do that, to every development here in Ontario. That's why the Supply chain is choked. That's why I say that this Inflation is Fakeflation  The Big developers here have figured it though. They develope in friendly/non greedy Cities/Towns only. They even sit on billions of Inventory ready to go. That decommission for that Gas station, would have ...more  
Comment by bicente on Apr 07, 2022 12:44pm
got filled at $145.45   ... squeezed out another $.05 from my original order ... GLTA quote=clubhouse19]859 I am more interested in banking stocks this AM as they are all getting hit hard. Just checking when i will pull the trigger in buying more CIBC considering the split coming and the surtax. BTW A couple is 2 and a few is relative, depending on the what base it is ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 07, 2022 2:38pm
ok. thanks club. I always thought that a few meant 2 where as a couple meant 3. I learn something new every day.
Comment by clubhouse19 on Apr 07, 2022 4:26pm
A few is much more complicated if you know what i mean Compared to 1 million $$ 100 bucks is not a few bucks  its really squat..lol but if all you have is 100 bucks to your name..I would consider 5 bucks a few bucks  LOl all in the eyes of the beholder Hows that for a useless conversation  Maybe Bago should take notes LOL
Comment by BePatient4now on Apr 07, 2022 5:48pm
Hola Cluby Baby, I see you got your asss kick real hard today by Bago. Because I'm one of your best friends here, I will give you another advice. At your next meeting at the Cluby loser Club, show some love towards the FK up members of your club. Open your heart to them and express your true inside feelings. Learn to listen and shot the fk up when it's time to do it. Then come back on this ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 07, 2022 7:52pm
Well I'm happy to say that my board looks really clean now, that I cleaned up a few of these aholes. Thanks Club for the English lesson.
Comment by BePatient4now on Apr 07, 2022 8:11pm
Liar, you are uncapable to put on ignore those you named you would put on ignore. You depend on us as much as Cluby the Barking Turkey. You may pretend all you want but on this board we know who you are, a bunch of liars and frustrated share holders. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one thinking about that.
Comment by BePatient4now on Apr 09, 2022 10:36pm
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