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Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > KEEPING AN EYE ON THE WORLD
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Post by Starsearcher80 on Oct 24, 2022 12:54pm

KEEPING AN EYE ON THE WORLD

I think it's a fair and prudent comment to say that while I'm very pleased with Bombardier, I'm also very nervous about where things in Ukraine currently stand.  I'm not sure how closely people follow the situation, but I'll try and capsulize my own thoughts here.

1)  So Putin starts a war he thinks he can win easily, and TOTALLY underestimates both the Ukrainian people and their resolve, and the immense aid from Nato countries.  Early victories turn to stalled advances, turn to retreats and heavy losses for the Russians.

2) Nato continues to beef up the Ukrainian firepower, and now the Ukrainian military is making notable advances on multiple fronts.  Putin starts to show signs of becoming unglued, and brings in convicts and untrained conscripts.  The top General for the war is basically fired, and Putin brings in his most ruthless leader who has absolutely NO morals at all, not that war is a moral thing in the first place.

3) Two weeks ago, Putin declares the 4 occupied regions as belonging to Russia, and puts up a not so veiled nuclear threat, stating he will use any and all means at his disposal if necessary.  He is condemned for these comments by Nato forces, but the discussion is out there whether he would actually use tactical nukes on Ukraine.  These are "backpack" nukes  or "battlefield nukes" with a low yield but absolutely devastating just the same.  Biden warns Putin not to do anything of the sort, saying that we are now closer to nuclear armageddon (Biden's words) than at any point since the Cuban missle crises in 1962.

4) So then Putin declares martial law in the 4 regions.  In Kherson, in the southern region, he has now decided to evacuate EVERYONE because he's now supposedly worried about the Ukrainian advances.  Well to me this seems very odd and makes no sense.  He certainly wasn't worried about evacuating anyone when he bombed the Hell out of it in the first place to take it over.  But now he is taking everyone out?

5) There are now reports that he is taking out his peoplee who were in charge of the region, and possibly withdrawing the military as well, although the reports are not conclusive. There are also reports that he is replacing military there with conscripts that have no military skills at all.

6)  One of the most devious tactics of the Russians, one they've used multiple times, is what is called a "false flag".  It's where they accuse the enemy of doing something, but really the Russians do it to themselves, as an excuse to escalate against the other side.

7) Well sure enough, we now have the Russian defense secretary doing EXACTLY that, saying that they have it on good authority that Ukraine is planning to use a "dirty bomb", which is a convential bomb packed with uranium that will contaminate.  It's not a nuclear weapon exactly, but kind of is.  Of course Ukraine completely denies this, as does Nato.  But if a "dirty bomb" were to go off in say....Kherson region, well of course this would give Russia to "retaliate" (even though they did it in the first place) with their own tactical/battlefield nukes.

8) I think the most scary thing is that the Russian defence secretary has now called the defense secretaries of Britain, France, Turkey and the United States to say how sure they are that Ukraine is actually going to do this.  That kind of escalation by the Russians is completely foolish and absolutely dangerous.

8)  I think the most danerous place for Putin is to be alone with his back to the wall, and that's exactly where he is right now.  Losing a war, and eventually losing his country.  What's the best thing he faces? A war crimes tribunal???  There's really no way out for him...no offramp, and he's only surrounded by absoute hardliners right now that have said openly that nuclear IS an option.

Please note: I absolutely HATE thinking about such things.  But you have to keep an eye on the crazy world, because it's one blink away from a true black swan event for the market.  If Putin were to set up that false flag, the market would be instantly crushed.

I seriously debated even writing this post.  It sickens me in many ways.  But if our obligation is to safeguard our investment, then we have to also look beyond just the company prospects to the global concerns that can absolutely affect our good intentions in this or any other stock.  So I'll post this in my own disgust that this is even something we have to consider, and I won't respond or discuss it further here because it seriously gets me upset.  If you want to learn further in real-time, just do your own google search on "Putin nuclear false flag".

Enough from me on this disgusting thought.
Comment by vonSachsenanhal on Oct 24, 2022 1:10pm
Scary thoughts. I've had them myself. I don't think it will happen. But it can't be ruled out altogether.
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 1:45pm
let us be fair, putin was pushed to this war, all he ask for, ukranie not to join nato, no us bases in ukranie as it was agreed upon in 1991 "1)  So Putin starts a war he thinks he can win easily" IMO, PUTIN WAS FORCED TO GO TO WAR, AS us AND NATO DID NOT RESPECT PREVIOUSLY AGFRRED UPON AGREEMENT THAT COUNTRIES THAT WAS PART OF RUSSIA DO NOT JOIN NATO, poland, check, etc all ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 1:55pm
Really Sham ??   there you go again painting putin as a good guy ?     You have your history all backwards as I pointed out before.    France and UK are the only european countries with nuclear stockpile of about 550 warheads contrary tio russia which is estimated to have 5500 to 6000 and you believe europe is more of a threat?  Like i said before...check your ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 1:58pm
no, not saying putin is a good guy,  he just told the world that us has labs developing viruses in ukranie (biden son)  biden got angry  in reality he was cornered and puched to war see the following, real story  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIn1AzZsQUU
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 2:16pm
us want the russia war to continue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALb2FPXFro4
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 3:05pm
Too funny Sham since he is basing his thjeory on a Hunch all the while being undetected in waters near the Russian coast. And you fall for that stuff. So you are under the impression that all this is staged so that Europe becomes a Puppet of the US and buying all the resources of Eukraine, And about Dombas ...you think after they had relinquished Crimea for all intents and purposes, no you belive ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 3:28pm
yes. , it look likec that Europe becomes a Puppet of the US and UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmO5QwOtPdk
Comment by Greenday on Oct 24, 2022 2:57pm
@ Shamhorish - Don't forget that US "invaded" Iraq only after Saddam attacked Kuwait.  Furthermore, do you know who is benefitting by buying discounted Russian oil?  India and China.  Is that maybe that's why India and China are thowing a blind eye on Russia's agression?  I'm glad that we have have the USA as our neighbour and not Russia.
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 3:14pm
I DO NOT WANT TO GET INTO POLITICS but do you know who pushed Sadam to go to Kuwait,,   ? it was us, as saddam said to us about his intention as Kuwait was steeling iraq oil by drilling inclind wells under iraq kuwait borders so in surface they are driliing in kuwait teretory but in reality undeneeth reaching iraq oil us said do what you have to do, it is not our busoness and refused ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 3:26pm
  And you get that from where ??  Like I said sham...do a little more investigation before you make yourself look totally as a conspiratist least of all uninformed.  And now you believe saddam because he says so even after he owed tons of money to Kuwait for his war agants Iran ? I guess the motive for that declaration is quiite clear ! Too funny ...but keep it up..you may have ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 3:28pm
Sham Forget to give you something to digest as this seems more credible compared to the sorcces you follow/ Tensions were already high between the two countries because Kuwait was producing more oil than its agreed upon OPEC quota, they did this to keep prices low. This perturbed Sadaam; Iraq was financially indebted to Kuwait after procuring loans to pay for their war with Iran in the 1980s ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 3:45pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiw0ILaXJf0
Comment by lb1temporary on Oct 24, 2022 4:43pm
Sorry Sham but yes you are right about this conversation but the whole story is more complicated. An high ranked official in US ambassy said that but when you plan to attack another country, an important US ally,  it's not so simple;  You need many conversation and not only one phone call to someone, as high ranked he is.  Second, There was no agreement  with NATO in 1991 ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 7:04pm
better to stay away from politics as the majority of people do not know really what is going on the world let us keep it about bbd
Comment by Greenday on Oct 24, 2022 7:08pm
@lb1temporary - Your absolutely right about the 1991 disintegration of the USSR.  They fell apart themselves and NATO never pledged that it would not accept new countiries under its umbrella.   The biggest irony of this war is that in 1994 Ukraine voluntarily gave up the nuclear weapons that Russia had stationed on Ukrainian territory in exchange for a security pledge from USA ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 7:26pm
Greenday, see what baker (us) said about  NATO promise Russia never to expand to the east https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVt-WXTLIZM
Comment by Greenday on Oct 24, 2022 7:51pm
@ Shamhorish - First of all the headline to the video you posted begins with the word "Did."  Secondly, James Baker was not the President of the United States and did not have the power to legislate.  Thirdly, there was never an agreement made.  Talk is cheap.  Most importantly though is that Russia needs to look at itself and figure out why so many countries have ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 8:39pm
Sham...you sound like your hero hero trumpass. If you are American...go and vote for the idiot  you make a good team believing this stuff.  You should give your head a shake and stop listening to only only fox news and extremist right wing wackos and do some research. You think if those wackos become like putin they will not want to set their eyes on Canada and not annex it ? Can't ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 7:30pm
Russia - Gorbachev comments on NATO expansion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wB9uL2lKaw
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 7:47pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui7dr5o38lU
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 8:31pm
the answer is here, better to see from biging,, but you can jump to minute 22 to see and hear what it was agreed upon in 1991 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui7dr5o38lU
Comment by Greenday on Oct 24, 2022 9:04pm
@ Shamhorish - Did it occur to you that the interviewee was an advisor to Gorbachev and that he is covering up for the bad advice that he was the source of?  Regardless though, the Warsaw Pact countries left the alliance because the fall of the Soviet Union gave them a choice.  Prior to the Soviet Union's fall the Warsaw Pact countries were under the Kremlin's thumb, economically ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 9:38pm
Greenday.. Really I am not surprised Sham comes up with this all you have to do is go back to his old psots on the bomber and take a look at those conspiracy theories he had that Bombardier was out to bankrupt its shareholder and whining here day after day. He takes negative news and conspiracy theories and looks for stuff to justify his irrationality.   Besides this Tulsi Gabbard makes ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 10:13pm
MR. CLUB, YOU ARE INTITEL TO YOUIR OPINION, SAME FOR EVERY ONE HER beleive in what you want and what suit you
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 25, 2022 6:23am
You are not entitled to your own facts and lies and spreading such. And 859  letting such bs be spread without  any retort is what is wrong with this misinformation and twisting of facts. Ignorance must be challenged as the US is headed into autocracy then it won't matter what the facts are anymore. 
Comment by BBDB859 on Oct 25, 2022 9:08am
Hey Club. I won't argue the fact that a person has to stand up for what they believe. I caught the topic as soon as I could. I noticed quickly that that this kind of topic originally introduced by Star would lead to vast interpretations of opinion, or what each of us perceive to be facts. The differences are normal. My only concern is that those very differences will create more arguments as ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 25, 2022 9:40am
BBDB, EXACTLY AS YOU SAID,  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 25, 2022 9:45am
This kind of misinformation stuff has to be challenged wherever it is brought up. It is all intertwined and all will be affected letting this BS spread like a plague . You are seeing the effects in the US as they fear being taken over by unpure races those other than what they think should run the country. If  that is not a signal, I don't know what is ??
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 9:23pm
 Likle I stated before sham..you should widen your horizons and stop listening to solely Fox news anchors and pundits.  I guess that you believe also that the soviet union's take over of all eastern europe after WW2 was legit and the right thing to do while everyone else helped Europe and Germany  to rebuild  and now she is comparing Biden to Hitler.   You know sham.. ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 3:30pm
see  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmO5QwOtPdk  
Comment by clubhouse19 on Oct 24, 2022 3:49pm
A very independent non bias interview ?? Are you for real ??? Sham I think you should concentrate on bomber deliveries as those seem to be something you know how to investigate !! Taking the word of Saddam...what an oxymoron as even his own people opened the  gallows floor trap and cheered.  I guess that was Kuwait also or the US  even though they also cheered.
Comment by Shamhorish on Oct 24, 2022 1:55pm
"false flag" 6)  One of the most devious tactics of the Russians, one they've used multiple times, is what is called a "false flag".  It's where they accuse the enemy of doing something, but really the Russians do it to themselves, as an excuse to escalate against the other side. so, what do you call 911, that was planed bu us to kill us citzen to get public ...more  
Comment by Sat123 on Oct 24, 2022 2:11pm
Sham, stop. You can't believe everything you watch or read on internet. Its full of lies. Use discrimination to see what is true.
Comment by TheProphetElijah on Oct 24, 2022 2:11pm
A false flag dirty bomb would clip Bombardier's wings pretty fast:
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