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Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Post by Inuk138 on Jan 24, 2023 11:06am

FOCUS-U.S. private jet buyers - Info

FOCUS-U.S. private jet buyers seek distressed planes in early sign of turbulence

By Allison Lampert

Jan 24 (Reuters) - Some U.S. business jet buyers are looking for new aircraft whose current owners are having trouble making payments ahead of delivery, in a possible sign of early cracks in what has been a soaring market up to now.

From preowned planes selling more gradually to flattening business jet traffic, demand is beginning to moderate, aviation lawyers, brokers and analysts said. While defaults remain rare, those signs of uneven demand are drawing attention.

One business jet executive said he has seen a few distressed planes and customers who are late on payments due to financial hardships, some of whom are from parts of Eastern Europe or Latin America where economic growth is expected to slow.

"We're watching to see if it will level off as a soft landing versus something else," said the executive, who asked not to be identified.

Investors will be watching for clues when Gulfstream-maker General Dynamics Corp and Cessna business jet maker Textron Inc report earnings on Wednesday. Private jet makers have assured investors their billion-dollar backlogs and ongoing demand would cushion any blow from a possible recession.

Planemakers rarely disclose cases of distressed planes, but argue they can easily resell unwanted models.

"If, for any reason, the final sale of an aircraft does not occur, the sales team works to match the aircraft with a similar customer's mission, location and timeline," said Lannie O'Bannion, a senior vice president at Textron's aviation unit.

HUNT FOR PLANES

During the COVID-19 pandemic, surging wealth, access to cheap cash, and demand from elite travelers fueled a sellers' market for business jets that left planemakers with swollen backlogs and long waits for certain models.

But rising interest rates that have hiked borrowing costs and growing signs of a looming recession have led some buyers to delay purchases.

With demand still strong for the moment, some eager buyers are hunting for distressed assets as a way to short-circuit the still-long wait for new planes, industry officials said. Some buyers also scrambled late last year to find distressed planes to qualify for favorable taxation rules.

Brian Proctor, chief executive of aviation advisory and brokerage firm Mente Group, said he has two buyers that would look at a distressed new plane "even if it wasn't 100% perfect."

Meanwhile, aviation attorney Stewart Lapayowker said he knew of a few buyers "waiting on the sidelines ready to jump into a delivery that's in default" given that some vulnerable customers were rethinking earlier orders.

At the same time, the speed of sales has slowed, with preowned aircraft now taking weeks to sell instead of hours or days during late 2021, Proctor said.

In another sign the market may be calming, inventory levels of listed preowned planes for sale grew more than 40% during the back half of 2022, said aviation analyst Brian Foley, citing data from industry specialist AMSTAT.

Comment by Truthifest on Jan 24, 2023 11:43am
Thx, Inuk.  Here's the rest of the article: Research consultancy WINGX said branded charter activity in North America fell 2% last year. WINGX sees 2023 flight activity falling from pandemic levels, but still ahead of 2019. EMISSIONS BACKLASH Another factor giving buyers pause is the growing backlash over emissions, with countries like Belgium planning to tax corporate aircraft and ...more  
Comment by stockitnow on Jan 24, 2023 11:45am
Good article but they didn't go far enough.  What they didnt have was type of aircraft.  Latin America and Europe tend to buy turboprop and or very light jet  made by Cessna and Embraer, and Pliatus.  These aircraft  are PC-12, king Air, Citation jets like mustang and Cesnna XLS, and Embraer Phenom 100/300.  This is the category which take a hit during recession.& ...more  
Comment by Truthifest on Jan 24, 2023 12:12pm
Stockitnow, what are ur thoughts on the SE Asia mkt for private jets like Bombardier sells?  It's a small mkt currently, but a ton of wealth has been created there over the last decade and more, and intra-regional and inter-regional distances are often large, so sure seems like huge potential for increased jet sales, dramatically so, I would think, especially now w China reopening.   ...more  
Comment by stockitnow on Jan 24, 2023 12:44pm
Truthifest, you are correct SE has not been very strong but they are seeing tremendous wealth growth.  In the past high net worth individuals and businesses travelers did not see the advantage of private jets.  And they were correct, pre covid the airlines were thriving and there were dime a dozen airlines, most offering really cheap flights and frequency was not an issue. After covid ...more  
Comment by Truthifest on Jan 24, 2023 2:14pm
stockitnow, thx. Funny how the US biz jet mkt is so big, that any big gain in Middle East and Asia is currently overshadowed by even small changes here, and to a much smaller extent, Europe.  So Bomber mgmt can get a much bigger bang for their time here, for now, but hopefully they keep cultivating the SE Asia and Middle East seeds.  An example is Martel attending the F1 race in ...more  
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