Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Mostly retail investors

[stockitnow]

I am more convinced now that Bombardier is and always will be retail investor class stock.  Institutions will buy but bare minimum that is required by them.

With family holding  15% shares and having majority control has never sat well with Bay street.  It was reckless family decisions that decide to build three all new design aircraft that financially drain Bombardier.  Had their been non family directors in control on the board this would not have happened.  This is why Institutions will not invest big money or hold large positions in Bombardier with all control with Bombardier family.  Bombardier family has proved not to be trusted with others money.   

Retail investors will benefit from Bombardier paying their debt.  The family needs to pay debt and increase share price.  And thats how retail investors will benefit because the family has lost a lot of their own money and need to make it back.

Bringing Bellemare was first right step, he was not emotionally tied to Bombardier.  Bellemare cut all loss making divisions something the family couldn't do because it would have been direct admission by family of making bad decisions years ahead.

Unless, and I am guessing as most likely it wont happen, Bombardier family gets rid of dual ownership come March investor day.  If this was to happen then Bombardier SP will go up.  Bombardier will still have 15% but it will be worth more. 

AC was limited to have 25%  foreign investors.  When the fed lifted it to 49% but still kept foreign voting to 25% then AC stock really took off.  While voting stayed the same more fresh money came in. 

Bombardier family could allow single investor who owns same or more then family to have equal or more voting as them.  So Bombardier family has 15% and stills controls the company until someone else puts in more.  This might open the flood gate to sp going up.  But this is a wild idea.  Regardless unless family gives control or allows for majority owner to control company, I don't see institutions coming in with large holdings.

[bicente]

there are different scenarios and the best example to hold onto is BRP .. the family is still making money and the company is thriving , so it is a plausible arrangement for the futur.. banks will be more enticed to buy in and therefore all shareholders will make money , including the family ...they make big toys for big boys at  BRP and now they are making  bigger toys for bigger boys .

[johnney]

That is a good question, institution's never got in, even at $65$70! This as I see is a trading stock, but not an investing one, will continue to play like this, I guess for a good while again, even with a 45% reduction of their debt! Those will load once more time again and unloading back as we become optimistic again, and the buyers there, they will give them back! For me only, less

[Shamhorish]

FAMILY  will never give away dual share structure if they do bbd will be taken away in open market same day or same week that is one reason they are trying to kill share price play with investores emotions and try to make people hate the stuck and chase  away insititutions where else do you see a drop of 22% on no real bad news and all fundamentals are sound and after so many

[bicente]

yes you have good points but you have to look at the bigger picture and that should involve outside sources for growth..military is a good start and they need key partners in US or other to make that happen ...partners are if you get the right ones and you structure the partnership the right way ... again , BRP is a perfect example , their sales will keep growing with electried toys ( next to no

[johnney]

Yah, a 22% drop with no bad news, how much would we haves drop with bad news, 40%!!

[stockitnow]

Forgot to mention that R/S stock price is also giving false indication.  We are down 55 cents pre R/S and sitting at 2.29.  Before the massive debt and all the drain from  c series, dehaviland,  Learjet and rail division Bombardier was around 6$ pre R/S that's about 150$.  We are at 57.37$ thats at 38% from the high when Bombardier was a real mess. None of the

[bicente]

I would  correct you if I may ..the bomber is held by traders much more than retail right now ...yes there are longs ( some still in the red ) but the new buyers just aren't there and that includes long term institutions ..that is why I have referred to dividends so often ..as you said , it would entice long term buying across the board ...it will come ...GLTA  

[johnney]

By your post you do not expect to stay in no longer, by saying that Bombardier is and will always be Retails investors!!

[stockitnow]

Before buying I knew Bombardier ownership structure and knew that bay street doesn't favor it.  I also knew Bombardier family is in control with only 15% ownership.  I have been long but one day i will have to sell.  For now that is more then a year away. Being only retail doesn't mean you cant be long.  Very slowly the sp will go up as debt gets paid, and much later

[bicente]

before buying I knew it was the family that controlled the business and that is why I bought in ... if it were not for the family controlling the bomber it would have went bankrupt and the shareholders would have been wiped out ... the remaining crumbs would have been bought up and a new company would have arised to take over the jet business ...happens too often ...the family put the bomber in

[Mauserintime945]

Ho yes, I thank them for having been able to face wind and obstacle to get us out of the waste.  

[bicente]

is this translated from French through google? it sure sounds like it ...lol... GLTA