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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

TSX:BBD.A - Post Discussion

Bombardier Inc. > This stock is way undervalued.
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Post by BBDB859 on Apr 26, 2024 2:47pm

This stock is way undervalued.

Hi Temp.

Just so that we have the right understanding here. According to TD/Cowen they have a target for GD at $284 to $315. 

These GD targets are in US dollars. The GD franchise (Gulfstream) is garbage compared to the Bomber franchise. The truth is that the Bomber Pure Play, just started to compete seriously in this segment. The Bomber has since (2022) overtaken Gulfstream as the Number 1 OEM in Production Levels. Especially with this 150-155 production target for 2024. 

I have a feeling that we will hit the $200 CAN SP range in 2025. By all rights we should be more valuable than Gulfstream. The only difference to me is that GD is a military powerhouse who gets all these military orders from the US government, so the Gulfstream SP is slightly convoluted. If we start to get some military orders soon? We'll hit those high SP's too. JMHO


"We forecast 2024 and 2025 EBITDA margin of 16.0% and 18.0%, respectively, with margin
expansion driven by higher aftermarket services revenue growth, increased deliveries, and
mix shift. Our 2025 adjusted EBIT margin forecast of 12.9% compares to GD's (BUY; current
price $284.94; target $315.00) 2024 EBIT margin guidance for its Aerospace segment of
15.0%, suggesting additional upside to margins in the long term, in our view."




Comment by PabloLafortune on Apr 26, 2024 3:29pm
859, I respect you very much as you know but we dont need to go there with GD. Its a good company.  Are they big picture? No. But who is nowadays. Sign of the times. I remember in the mid 90's when Apple was in serious financial trouble and you know what Intel Corp officials were saying even though Apple was using a competing micro processor?  That Apple was a very important ...more  
Comment by flamingogold on Apr 26, 2024 3:44pm
"the cream always rises to the top" In the USA yes, not in Canada. Investors on this board know this is true because we had to give away the CSeries program for nothing. The only way I see BBD rising to the top is a US listing. Until then, we are just a sidebar story beside every other big US company.
Comment by PabloLafortune on Apr 26, 2024 3:50pm
You and I are on the same page Flamingo re US listing. Its too important of a global company to just be listed on the TSX. Reminds me of Lululemon when they dumped the TSX and went NASDAQ only. The uproar didnt last long....Global Western companies trade in the US. Period.
Comment by Shamhorish on Apr 27, 2024 7:13pm
flmigogold, please explain why Us listing can have positive effect on bbd.b sh price do you mean a us investore does not have access to buy bbd.b right now i mean any canadian can buy sh of x or y that is listed on uS, why us investore need to have bbd listed on us to invest in it
Comment by Nordico on Apr 27, 2024 8:50pm
Most U.S investors wouldn't want to bother converting to CAD (and back again after selling) to buy TSX-listed equities. And separately, most U.S. brokers probably don't give self-directed retail clients the option to buy OTC securities.
Comment by trademorestock on Apr 27, 2024 10:06pm
US investors aren't allowed to have $cdn accounts period.   I tried that for my brother, a US citizen and resident with zero luck  US investors also won't look at anything on the otc, and if they did they wouldn't take it seriously 
Comment by Shamhorish on Apr 28, 2024 12:49am
ok thanks but i can buy through scotia bbd share in canadian or us $ using the right simble BDRAF:OTCQX INTERNATIONAL PREMIER View BBD.PR.B on the TSX Set Alert   Add to WatchList           Last Change Bid (size) Ask (size ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Apr 28, 2024 12:55am
ok thanks but i can buy through scotia bbd share in canadian or us $ using the right simble (for us $ BDRAF BDRAF:OTCQX INTERNATIONAL PREMIER View BBD.PR.B on the TSX Set Alert   Add to WatchList           Last Change Bid (size)  ...more  
Comment by Acuras1 on Apr 26, 2024 3:46pm
Solid post! I suspect you are correct in your assumption about a US relationship moving forward. This would be a fuse for share price:) GLTA
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 26, 2024 3:52pm
Hi Pablo. Thanks for the kind words. Likewise. I understand what you mean. I'm getting pissed with this heavy manipulation though, which I think is coming through the US. So ya on the end, we could get some support from the US in the military side for sure. Let's see where this SP is heading? Yes there is room for everybody as you say. No doubt. 
Comment by Tempo1 on Apr 26, 2024 4:54pm
Hi , I am respectfull in front of GD, Gulfstream is a very strong franchise. Look at he Flexjet web site, they put the gulfstream jets in the showcase, the GD biz jets backlog is close to 20 B$. That means something. Will we hit 200$ in 2025 ? I hope so but I prefer to look the problem with a probability angle, focusing on the more probable scenrio. My feeling is that, since a few weeks, we ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 26, 2024 5:50pm
True, we still have the Investors Day news coming May 1rst. I'm  trying to get the invite to see Pearson too, we'll see if I can. You're right $100 will be enjoyable. Though if we hit $120, I would love to see the 3 for 1 forward split.