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Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > Bragging and truth
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Post by Tempo1 on Jul 27, 2024 8:40pm

Bragging and truth

If a Cessna pilot wears an Air Canada’s pilot costume, passengers will get caught by the sham but the jet’s Captain will see quickly that the guy never flies a Boeing.


On our board, A guy is bragging how he is smart and that he managed a 8 digit portfolio, giving advices around him .  …’’they usually grill me on questions which I have every answer to …’’ (july 23 post).  He manages it himself.  He must have had a huge success accumulating that portfolio.  He must be skillful.  OK, let’s take a closer look: 



- He has a 11X EV/EBITDA hypothesis and a 188$ target for BBD next year (his july 5 post)( telling that is only his average prediction on july 23). Even the most bullish analysts (RBC, TD and Desjardins) had a more modest target at 133$, 129$ and 143$. More importantly, their multiples are at 8X (RBC),  8,25X (TD) and 8,5 X (Desj) for 2025. We all love Bombardier but there is no magic.


He is so out of bound It would be surprising if he had any success with such stretched thinking. This kind of target disturbs the judgment and misleads the allocation of money or investments. That brings moments like Thursday when he has been caught pants down with his 10000 shares bought the day before. 


- But he added more, let’s see the time frame: Thursday, he wrote at 11.04 that he was nervous, but 56 minutes later he told us that he had placed an order for 10 000 more shares. Finally, he bought 22 000 more that day. He wrote that he could not access the NBF opinion that day and the RBC opinion was published at 4:16 after the market closed. So, he bought it for 2 M$ after being nervous and before any analyst publications. WOW. His money was flying.


…’’and prove my hunches with solid information, research, fundamental and technical analysis….’’ (b..sh..t, july 23, 12:03 )


So, he added a total of 60% more shares in 2 days to the 55 000 shares he had. Only gambling, speculative and emotional moves.  Not a recipe for the kind of success he is bragging about. Sure, chance happens but chance is not a strategy.


- He only use the Royal bank analysis and writes only about them. I don’t have a 8 digit portfolio and I managed to have access to 5 different brokers; each one is better in an area (service, data, prices, ease of use, bonds, options, etc) , and the best analyst for each sectors are not with the same broker (for BBD it’s RBC and Desjardins) . I’m not alone like that with a portfolio of the size of mine. But with a 8 digit portfolio, it is a must, he could even talk with analysts.  Why does he never try to have these access with such a large portfolio? Is he so smart that he doesn't need them ?  A 300 K$ deposit is enough to have access to analysis of the most secretive broker. He doesn't  !!!  Mystery ?

 

- He has an account at NBF, but he doesn't know that analysts there send their analysis at some news wire and at selected clients (like the 8 digit portfolio managers) before publishing them in a batch the day after for the other clients (Thursday posts).


I don’t have the time (and the will ) to follow many companies seriously and closely; it’s so time consuming. Investing 5, 10 or 20 000$  in a company doesn’t require a lot of work but you can’t invest 100 k$ and more in a stock and have success if you allow only a limited time to each of them. Not to mention that work to identify your next investment is huge; you have to look at 15 or 20 stocks before finding one. So, a part of my portfolio is managed by a full service broker (my choice). He managed my diversified stock portfolio. I kept the charge of my bonds portfolio and a bunch of 6 to 8 companies with which I have the most important investments. Managing a 10-99 M$ portfolio is close to the professional level and almost a full time job. Professionals with all their skills and the support of a team around them can’t do this part time, how can he do it alone? . How can he follow all his large portfolio, during the Q2 results weeks (July 15 to august 10),  and, at the same time, follow conversations and posting more than 10 times a day on our board?  with such success ? Superman? No, only by bambling and by emotional moves like the ones he did thursday.


- He wrote June 11 that an A- rating ‘’is not impossible’’ for BBD in the next 12 months. NO, it is impossible even in 3 years. This affirmation tells me that he has only a basic knowledge of ratings and so, a limited experience in bonds. Rating agencies are conservatives and have only a long term vision. At best, they move only a notch at a time every 6-12 months. For example, It took Air Canada 7 years to climb from CCC to  BB+ (2012-2019) with constant  solid performances. Not to mention the A- rating, reserved to some banks, selected large companies or governments. So, even with a thin experience in fixed assets, he managed a 8 digit portfolio??? or, at contrario, with a so large portfolio, he never learns more than basics about ratings?


In conclusion, did he add one or two 0$ to its real holdings and trades ? Hummuum…What do you think?.


…or if true, he didn’t get it by growing it by himself, maybe, an inheritance recently. If so, his self management will not last long.


Interested to read his opinions ?  Sure, he has a positive input. I will read them like all others. Only annoyed by the bragging and lessons he tried to give to some.  


Flying a Cessna is already very good, why try to make us believe that he is  flying a Boeing?

 
Comment by stock4life48 on Jul 27, 2024 11:51pm
First I wasn't bragging I manage an 8 digit portfolio, simply stating a fact. I maintain my 11x EV/EBITDA fundamental analysis so what. I'm aware what other analysts have posted with Desjardins being the highest. So what I did buy another 22,000 shares, but over 2 days. I was a little nervous given the 13% drop from the high last week. Again so what? I was following the technicals on ...more  
Comment by johnney on Jul 28, 2024 9:02am
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Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 12:33am
Thanks Temp. I will put him on ignore. I knew something was wrong. He was always being a pest and wanting know things. It was obvious he was always looking for information, but he never had anything concrete or of VALUE to give to us. I was getting tired of giving answers and getting nothing in return that made sense, or was remotely helpful. Just criticism. Yes he had positives to say about BBD ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 12:36am
Btw I don't give too many stars here. But in this case  one of the stars to your mine. Jusy wanted you to know.
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 12:39am
Correction: Btw I don't give too many stars here. But in this case one of the stars to you, is from me. Star #5. Jusy wanted you to know.
Comment by trademorestock on Jul 28, 2024 2:04am
I'll agree with Stock4life48, it's pretty obvious that Tempo is jealous.  Anyone else here as successful?  I doubt it and I have always listened to the successful people in the room because I want to be him
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 9:53am
Sorry Trademorestock. You're going  on ignore too.  It seems to me that you came on this board about the same time as Stock4. And that just says to me that you are the same poster as Stock4. One person 2 handles. There are people that are planted here on this Board to cause havoc and spread lies by different interests. This trading pattern of the Bbd stock is changing. And it seems ...more  
Comment by flamingogold on Jul 28, 2024 4:29pm
859, I'm catching up on some older posts. Thanks for the heads up, I just put both of those handles on ignore now.... cuts down on the noise.
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 5:31pm
Ya I gave them both plenty of rope in the past. They just hung themselves with it. Cheers
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Jul 28, 2024 10:23am
Trademorestock and Stock4life48 thingy -  I'm successful, doesn't mean anyone should listen to me... except when I say that you should read a lot an inform yourself using lots of different sources and that if you should pick one individual to put as a strong reference for investing, it shoudl be Warren Buffet, event if it's only for is very insigthful quotes. That being said ...more  
Comment by stock4life48 on Jul 28, 2024 11:10am
Nobody, I find it very funny that people would listen and base their investments on an internet chat room forum because that is what this is.  Most of the info here that I have seen is garbage or cherry picked, some is good I will admit, most is not.  I really don't care who buys or sells based on what I say, everyone should do their own research.  Its hilarious to think ...more  
Comment by Bullvsbear99 on Jul 28, 2024 11:59am
It's funny to find someone with 10 figure holding wasting their time Sunday morning, defending themself.   This is not what someone should be doing.  Sad
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 12:26pm
Good observation bull. It's funny to me that, someone with such knowledge wants to see my work, and learn from it. I'm not even a trader. The nonsensical part of the whole thing was,  that he was always criticizing my work but never had any work of his own to disprove or teach us something. Smells very fishy. 
Comment by MyNameIsNobody on Jul 28, 2024 3:33pm
Stock4life48 - this is like real life.. but whiteout filters.. no smarter or dumber. ..ans you assumed a bunch of stuff I haven't  wrote about.. that's you,not me.
Comment by Snowey on Jul 28, 2024 10:08am
‘Something is rotten in the state of Denmark’   I had that feeling about this guy.   Well done Tempo1.   I’ve got your back.   Snowey
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 10:55am
You know what? I've been here on this Board from 2016. I think I saw Temporary1, and then Tempo1 afterwards come in around 2019. Never once has he done this to my knowledge. Talk about a poster this way. I believe Tempo's hunch, and deduction of Stock4 is right. I've experienced something similar to Tempo, as I've posted with Stock4. I know Tempo changed his handle but so have I ...more  
Comment by Snowey on Jul 28, 2024 12:02pm
Hi BBDB859,   I never got any of your posts deleted. I have no issues discussing the Trump/Biden thing. I welcome discussion and bear no ill feelings.   There are a few people that I copy and paste from this board for reference when thinking about Bombardier. BBDB859 (you), Tempo1 and PabloLafortune. I also have an appreciation for the long-time holders like Shamhorish (22 years) and ...more  
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 12:12pm
Thanks Snow. I believe you. You're very sincere. Then I guess it must have been someone else. I was probably one of these 2. 
Comment by BBDB859 on Jul 28, 2024 12:17pm
Cirrection: IT was probably one of these 2
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