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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Post by BBDB859 on Aug 03, 2024 1:06pm

JMHO

In the last couple of days we've seen a dumb market drop of almost $17 in the share price of the Bomber stock. How does someone explain this???

Well I'll take a stab at it. From what I've noticed going on in the Macro enviroment.

First, I've been noticing that the Job markets are softening up, in both Canada & the US. In Canada. The BoC is reducing Interest rates quarterly almost, just to get some confidence in the Canadian housing market, and to get people to start spending in housing, so we can avert a Recession. IMHO, people aren't going to spend enough money in Canada for big ticket items with such small Interest rate cuts, period. Or even spend enough on small ticket items, to even create enough Jobs, to keep this Canadian economy going, as Trudope & his ,cronies think. Consumer spending will not be enough to keep the economy from taking a tailspin here. That is a very hard to do. Trudope is dreaming with these small cuts, to get people spending and therefore to CREATE JOBS. It's way more complicated than that. We have high capacity in the Economy already, and it's being wasted. Because producers want prices Inflationary. These producers like the high profits and prices will stay up. They don't need to hire.

Secondly, the small interest rate rate cuts aren't fooling anybody.The problem I see there is, is that Trudope is dreaming. Because he thinks that, 1 Quarter point drops will fix the housing market, & somehow get confidence in people to spend, when they don't have any disposable income, from all the high prices they've paid for housing, & Inflation for food, goods, & services. What I mean is, that Canadian Interest rates can't be reduced too much, and especially too fast to entice people to spend, and get the housing market going, and for people to have extra money from high Mortgage payments, to afford money to spend on smaller ticket items. Simply, that Canadian Interest rates can't be reduced below the 4% rate, because of the problems created by Trudope & his policies, by bringing Immigration to Cananada like it was an open border. The housing Market can't rebound that quickly with the damage it sustained, from all his policies in that period from 2018 to 2022.

The lying, and the games of 1 Quarter point reductions isn't going to help reduce INFLATION. The closing of the borders and time, are the only remedies. Without getting into the details of what would fix this Canadian economy too much. I want to stay focussed on what I think has happened to the drop of the Bomber shares. So I think, the Stock Market, doesn't have confidence in either Government's attempt to correct the problems of the Canadian or US economy, in the short term. The smart stock market guys see that both Canada & the US, are going to have a difficult time with Inflation, and they are playing out that game in the market. Excuses to steal.

Thirdly, which brings me to the SP reduction in the last 2 days is, is that market is using the two first points from above to play their games of Shorting. Both the Short Term investors, and the Shorters are taking the advantage of these Govt. mistakes, and are playing the market with the excuse of the Economic conditions. They are using the JOBS market & not enough Interest rate cuts by Gov't as their excuse to Short. The problems that these 2 Govt's have put on the economy, aren't a 5 year problem. In the case of Canada; and Immigration, it's a 10 year problem for getting it corrected. Trudope is now trying to build housing in Ontario. Good luck with that.

In the US, the Government isn't moving fast on interest rate cuts. The US model is better, because they know that, too fast decreases in small Interest rate cuts, will be meaningless, and will re-start INFLATION. The Canadian economy is in worse shape than the US, believe it or not. If Trudope doesn't stop reducing interest rates soon, then, the Inflation will take off again, and we'll hit a deeper recession. No matter how Trudope does it, we're going to have a Recession. Trudope is now running on the campaign to reduce the Immigration in the next election (LOL). He is also lying to the Canadian public by playing with the Interest rate game. These problems he's created with Immigration & Interest rates at 1% during covid, and even giving money away in that period, connot be corrected in 2 or 3 years. He has realized that, they have to take money out of the hands of the people that they gave free money to during to. Yet he needs money to operate the Govt. And at the same time is changing the Capital gains rules. He is basically, sucking and blowing with the Economy at the same time. Meanwhile he's trying to get re-elected. He can't stop Inflation. And fix the housing market by 2025. So he's lost in ECONOMIC space.

The problems with the Canadian Stockmarket is, that they alow "Naked Shorting". So that proposses even a bigger problem for the Canadian Investors. So these US and Canadian Anonymous sharks, are stealing from us, like there is no tomorrow, when ever they want. That's why they're called Anonymous. We have no idea who they are. Let's get real here. These Shorters/Manipulators with their Algo-rythems & Black Boxes are thieves. The fact that they let the Bomer share price climb to $98 was a miracle. But they know what they're doing. They don't want to appear too greedy by constantly keeping the Share price too low, to steal from investors. They are playing the game perfectly, and it's up to us not to play the game with them. Let them hang themselves with all these games. The only thing the Bomer can do is keep making profits, and for us to not sell when the Shorters play their game. Only buy if you have money. They have to cover eventually. The Bomber is controlling some of this, with share buybacks, so sooner or later this game the Shorters are playing, is going to catch up on them. That's enough with raping these shareholders SHORTERS. Go somewhere else. Hopefully in 2025 on, when we get the $1B +FCF yearly, they'll go short some other stock, and we'll have enough Institutional money here in here, to keep these vultures from killing this great little company.
Comment by glory7 on Aug 03, 2024 1:19pm
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Comment by smush74 on Aug 03, 2024 2:03pm
stock market corrections are part of economic cycles, if you didn't notice there was a global sell off the past two days. Global economy is still on shakey ground both individual and corporate. As for interest rates its the Bank of Canada who sets rates reguardless of who the PM is. Enjoy the long weekend
Comment by BBDB859 on Aug 03, 2024 3:45pm
You're entitled to your opinion. Please enlighten us. I gave u my opinion. Why don't u expand on what u just said? Why do u think we got wacked with the SP other than global  correction. What? There is no shorting? I know who sets rates in Canada. I said so, in the post. Pressure comes from the Trudope Govt. to the BoC. They're not independent.  If u think that, then you' ...more  
Comment by Acuras1 on Aug 04, 2024 11:32am
Given the last 3-4 months enthusiasm for buying up shares, it's perfectly reasonable to see a 15-25% retracement in share price. Until we've achieved further credit upgrades and totally sustainable profits Bombardier common shares will be 'played' with by pros. I see an opportunity to add shares because the same people who push it down will be there for the next wave up! Just be ...more  
Comment by Shamhorish on Aug 04, 2024 1:26pm
YES, AGREE, ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THE PACE OF REGAINING LOST VALUE IN BBD SHARES WILL BE SOME HOWTRICKY AS THERE ARE MANY OBESTACLE LIKE ENGINES DELIVERY DELAYS, SUPPLY PROBLEM SPECIALLY NOW IT MAY GET WORTH WITH WARS AND TROUBLES ARE SPREADING IN MIDDLE EAST SOME SAYS IT IS THE BEGINING OF THIRD WORLD WAR!!! 
Comment by johnney on Aug 04, 2024 8:25pm
Dow Jones Futures down 257 points at 8:22 pm! Glta!
Comment by johnney on Aug 04, 2024 9:47am
IMO, recovery of what is been lost on the stock in last two day's trading, will be very slow! Glta!
Comment by johnney on Aug 04, 2024 10:47am
$17 drop in the last few days, is more than a lot! Close to $11, in the last two days trading! In pourcentage drop, Gulfstream and Textron, there is a big difference! IMO, getting than lost back fir the s/p will be very slow! Glta!
Comment by SylviaM62 on Aug 04, 2024 11:12am
Bonjour Johnney, In July we had very rapid increases.  It had gone form 84 $ to 96 $ from July 5 to 12, it's only 1 week.  Maybe it will do the same thing, let's hope so.  Otherwise, we'll wait, we're used to it ... and we'll enjoy the summer.  Have a nice day !
Comment by johnney on Aug 04, 2024 1:39pm
Sylvia, j'espre bien! Merci pour l'encouragement!! Bonne journe!
Comment by flamingogold on Aug 04, 2024 8:41pm
859, in all fairness, Trudeau does not set monetary policy. Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of Trudeau and the Libs. They spend like the well is bottomless. They do not have my vote in the next election unless they can snag Mark Carney as the Finance minister. But, blaming fiscal policy on Trudeau alone is misguided.
Comment by BBDB859 on Aug 04, 2024 10:19pm
Hi Flamingo. That's not what saying in my post. When I used the word "Trudope, I was saying "Trudope & his Cronies". The Cronies are the BoC head "Tim Macklem", and his underlinks right now, at the BoC. I agree that Carnie is bright. I'm 10 years older than Carey, and I have seen him at work here in Canada before he left England. As I've mentioned here on ...more  
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