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BCE Inc. is a Canada-based communications company. The Company provides wireless and fiber networks. The Company operates through one segment: Bell Communication and Technology Services (Bell CTS). Bell CTS segment provides a range of communication products and services to consumers, businesses and government customers across Canada. Its wireless products and services include mobile data and... see more

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Post by BlueDawn on Nov 19, 2024 11:33pm

Bell vs the other telcos

Interest apayments showdown:

Bell's large debt has been a focus of discussion and paying that debt down has been a major talking point.  The debt has been signalled as Bell's most talked about weakness.  I thought to shed a little math on the comparison of the telco's debt impact in the form of interest relative to earnings.  Surprisingly I found Bell had the lowest impact of interest to earnings when compared to the other telcos.

 

Bell vs the other telcos if we take the EBITDA year over year growth we see Rogers performed the best primarily due to the cost cutting from the Shaw synergies followed by Bell then Telus.  Bell should look to get to Rogers margin and rather reduce opex…. 

 

EBITDA

BCE $2722 up 2.1% from 2667

Rci $2545 up 6% from 2411 ( bell is 1.1062 bigger)

Telus $1842 up 1.3% from 1820 ( bell is 1.4654 bigger)

Quebecor $594.1 down 4.9% from 624.4 (bell is 4.5824 bigger)

 

I divided the Bell ebitda by the other telco Ebitda above to baseline the earnings multiple between the telcos.  Then below I factored in the telco interest payments and again divided the after interest earnings of Bell by the other telcos and what you see is for each telco (other than Quebecor) has more negative impact.  This means relative to earnings bells interest payment is smaller than the other telcos.  Hence relative to earnings Bells debt impact is smaller.  Ie Bell has the best debt profile of the 4 telcos…
 

 

BCE 440m interest 2722-440=2282

Rci 593m interest 2545 - 568 = 1977 (bell is 1.1543 bigger)

Telus 351m interest 1842-351 = 1491 (bell is 1.5305 bigger)

Quebecor 92m interest 594.1 - 92 = 502.1 (bell is 4.5549 bigger)

 

ebitda/debt

bce 2722/440 = 6.1863
rogers 2545/568 = 4.4806
telus 1842/351= 5.2478
quebecor 594/92=6.4565 

only Quebecor had a better ratio...

Comment by BlueDawn on Nov 19, 2024 11:37pm
Apologies bad proof reading let errors slip in: Interest payments showdown: Bell's large debt has been a focus of discussion and paying that debt down has been a major talking point.  The debt has been signalled as Bell's most talked about weakness.  I thought to shed a little math on the comparison of the telco's debt impact in the form of interest relative to earnings ...more  
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