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BCE Inc. is a Canada-based communications company. The Company provides wireless and fiber networks. The Company operates through one segment: Bell Communication and Technology Services (Bell CTS). Bell CTS segment provides a range of communication products and services to consumers, businesses and government customers across Canada. Its wireless products and services include mobile data and... see more

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Post by birdbuild99 on Nov 29, 2024 5:41pm

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Hello, i asked ChatGPT the question below and attached the answer.   This information IF CORRECT gives me more confidence in Ziply.  You can make your own assumption from the info below regarding COMPETITIVE threats.

DO NOT USE THE INFO BELOW TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT DECISION, I AM NOT FOR OR AGAINST BCE.

The Question:
can unlimited fiber optic lines from different companies be put in any one city or are there limits




ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT

In theory, unlimited fiber optic lines from different companies can be installed in a city, but there are practical limitations and regulatory considerations that govern how and where these networks can be deployed.

Here are some of the key factors that influence fiber optic installation in a city:

1. Infrastructure and Space Limitations

  • Physical Space: Cities have a finite amount of space in the ground for laying cables. While many fiber lines can share the same conduits (underground pipes or ducts), there’s still a limit to how many cables can be installed in existing infrastructure without needing to dig up more roads or sidewalks.
  • Utility Poles: Overhead fiber optic lines may be placed on utility poles, but this requires coordination with the utility companies, and the poles have limited capacity for multiple lines.
  • Coordination with Local Authorities: Fiber optic companies must work with city planners, transportation departments, and other entities to ensure that their infrastructure doesn’t interfere with other essential services (like water, gas, and electrical lines).

2. Regulatory and Permitting Issues

  • Right of Way (ROW): Fiber optic companies must secure permission to use public land, streets, or private property to install their cables. In most cities, multiple companies can apply for permits to install fiber, but there may be restrictions or competition for available space.
  • Franchise Agreements and Licensing: Some cities have agreements with specific providers, giving them exclusive rights to install infrastructure in certain areas, which can limit the number of competing networks.
  • Building Codes and Zoning Regulations: Local building codes may restrict how fiber optic lines can be installed, especially in older buildings or densely populated areas where there are concerns about aesthetic or environmental impacts.

3. Cost and Demand

  • High Capital Costs: Installing fiber optic networks is expensive. It’s unlikely that many companies would invest in building redundant fiber infrastructure in the same city unless there is significant demand for competition or underserved areas.
  • Market Competition: While more competition can lead to better pricing and service for consumers, companies are unlikely to duplicate infrastructure in areas where one or two providers already have an established network, unless there is a compelling business case (like serving underserved or high-demand areas).

4. Technology and Shared Infrastructure

  • Shared Networks: In some cases, providers may share infrastructure. For example, they may lease capacity on existing fiber networks or co-locate equipment in shared data centers or fiber conduits, reducing the need for redundant networks.
  • Open Access Networks: In some regions, municipalities or third-party entities may build fiber networks and allow multiple ISPs to lease access to the infrastructure, fostering competition without the need for each provider to build its own lines.

5. Environmental and Community Impact

  • Environmental Concerns: Laying fiber optic cables often involves digging up streets or disrupting local environments. Many cities may place limits on the amount of construction and digging allowed in certain areas to minimize disruption to local communities, the environment, or traffic.
  • Community Outreach: Some cities or local governments may require fiber providers to demonstrate a certain level of community benefit, such as providing service to underserved areas, before granting approval for extensive network expansion.

Conclusion

While there is no inherent technological limit to how many fiber optic lines can be installed in a city, the actual deployment is constrained by factors like physical space, regulatory approval, costs, and market demand. In practice, multiple fiber optic providers may compete to serve different neighborhoods or regions, but there are often mechanisms like shared infrastructure or regulation that manage the overall density of fiber optic networks in a given area.

Comment by jx7000 on Nov 29, 2024 5:52pm
It'd be nice to know what he/she/it thinks of out illustrious PM, and the future of our once-great country when he takes his walk in the snow.
Comment by Davesnothere on Nov 29, 2024 6:53pm
Excellent post Bird.  Even though Ziply may not have been BCE's first choice as an entry point for expansion to USA, they did say this would be immediately accretive with room to double subscribers over 3 years. Another good thing is that this is not hostile, but welcomed by the incumbent , Ziply.  As a shareholder, I see no way other than waiting for quarterly updates. All this ...more  
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