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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Big Banc Split Corp T.BNK

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.BNK.PR.A

The investment objectives for the Preferred Shares are to provide their holders with fixed cumulative preferential monthly cash distributions in the amount of $0.05 per Preferred Share ($0.60 per annum or 6.0% per annum on the issue price of $10.00 per Preferred Share) until November 30, 2023 (the Maturity Date) and to return the original issue price of $10.00 to holders on the Maturity Date... see more

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Big Banc Split Corp > Oil production
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Post by braincloud on Feb 10, 2016 9:22am

Oil production

Remember that the US is still a net importer of oil , not quite half their requirement is still imported. The production rate IMO is unsustainable not only in the US but globally. Take the likes of CHK. They had record production in their last annual report even though they were negative cash flow for the past 2 years. How can that be? There is a strong motivation for indebted oil companies to produce to service debt. In the end if they can't make money at these levels the debt will continue to mount and eventually the music stops when bonds are defaulted on , banks call their loans and further financing become too expensive. There's no doubt in my mind that cheap money has exacerbated this level of over production. The oil companies fueled with the appetite to get yield ,invested in marginal shale and the returns "on paper" looked great. Now the oil companies are pumping for all they are worth to get whatever cash they can to avoid default. On many counts this stress is already happening. For the more distressed company bonds the implied borrow rates are closing in on 20%! The total oil debt is converging on $1 trillion in North America and $2.5 trillion globally!!! What's more is that the borrow rate for the less leveraged companies have doubled over the last year to an average of 8%. Again, with decline rates of an average globally at 35% and for shale at 60% this model just doesn't work. Someone owns this debt, so that's maybe why the financial sector has been hit so very hard. If we get more defaults happen then the appetite for financing oil production will eventually drop. It's possible the news in the oil space will get much worse in the coming months. This will eventually be good news for oil supply. Uneconomic oil production will stop, premium oil deposits will move into stronger hands and we eventually get some upward momentum.
Comment by grantoue on Feb 10, 2016 9:43am
I agree  AMEN
Comment by wallop13 on Feb 10, 2016 3:36pm
US production dropped 28,000 this week. That's the largest weekly drop in about 3 months. 95%+ of non-Opec producers can't maintain production with cash flow right now (most have no cash flow). When you hear BNN saying 75% of canadian producers have no cash flow, that's before any Capex is spent. These companies need a huge amount of cash flow to replace declining production. The virus ...more  
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