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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Baytex Energy Corp T.BTE

Alternate Symbol(s):  BTE

Baytex Energy Corp. is a Canada-based energy company. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, development and production of crude oil and natural gas in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and in the Eagle Ford in the United States. Its crude oil and natural gas operations are organized into three main operating areas: Light Oil USA (Eagle Ford), Light Oil Canada (Pembina Duvernay... see more

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Baytex Energy Corp > Baytex – Investors vs Flippers & Volatility
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Post by ResearchSeeker on Nov 06, 2022 12:48pm

Baytex – Investors vs Flippers & Volatility

All longs and momentum traders,


I think it is wise to determine which strategy works best for every individual.
 
I think it’s a great idea to be both a trader and investor, when you have enough time to be thorough, and monitor stock’s price and events daily. To do this properly is a lot of work, and I was doing that for a time. At some point in the future, I will do it again, because I enjoy doing it.
 
Trading around a core position:

A volatile stock on the rebound, is ideal for this kind of strategy. Baytex has been, and will probably continue to be, a great stock for this strategy.
 
Say you had 10,000 shares gathered from pandemic times at much lower prices and held until May of this year. This trading around a core position strategy is to accumulate shares, rather than accumulate cash for this example.
 
Using 90% approximate of weekly tops and bottoms, based on the opening price for the week. Start with 10,000 shares.
 
Week of June 6th, Sell 3000 shares at $9.02 for $27,060.00 and hold the cash for the next pullback.
Week of June 20th Buy 4800 shares at $5.57, and some leftover cash goes to commissions paid.
 
Reallocate holdings: 11,800 shares becomes 8800 shares long core position, and 3000 for trading.
 
Week of June 27th Sell 3000 shares at $6.91 for $20,730.00 and hold for pullback.
Week of July 4th Buy 3900 shares at $5.31 and some leftover cash goes to commissions paid.
 
Reallocate holdings: 12,700 shares becomes 9700 shares long core position, and 3000 for trading.
 
Week of July 25th Sell 3000 shares at $6.97 for $20,910.00 and hold for pullback.
Week of Aug 2nd Buy 3700 shares at $5.58 and some leftover cash goes to commissions paid.
 
*** Week of August 8th, a bullish engulfing pattern is observed. Strategy on hold until another run up over $9.16 is made.  (This bullish engulfing pattern really did happen!)
 
Summary: Holding 13,400 shares long, and you are glad to pay some tax on this effort, because it’s better to pay tax than to not pay tax! Depending on your situation, this tax amount could be more, less, or offsetting.
 
The only downside to this strategy is if the stock moves higher, and you are not able to buy more shares lower. If this happens, your average core position cost is obviously lower, and you still have your core position. It’s a no lose situation, and why many people use this strategy.
 
If there is a buyout event, or other stock moving news to the upside, then your core position benefits from the move, and you re-evaluate the next move.
 
I used to post some support and resistance levels, and they are still there. Above the CAD $8.80 level, there is not much trading history. After the first of the year, we could see moves higher when new money, and profits from sector rotations out of technology move into Baytex. The bullish engulfing pattern is real, and although it is not after a long term, price crashing bottom, it is still significant.
 
For some of the newer investors trying to learn, how I make my weekly Sharpe Chart is in the link below. I would not recommend looking at daily interval charts, because the time-frame is too short. I also like to use quarterly charts of indexes for broader market trends. Intra-day charts are best used to explain unusual activity, like we have seen near the close recently. I would not use them for anything else.
 
 
 
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Comment by dllscwbysfn on Nov 06, 2022 1:21pm
Jeez, usually I like what you write. Anybody can back date trades and say this is the way to do it. And to say the only downside to this strategy is if the stock moves higher, really !!What happens if you buy a stock with this strategy in mind and right out of the gates the stock price crashes, massive downside. There is no pure strategy out there that works if there was we would all use it and be ...more  
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 06, 2022 4:06pm
Some of us are , friend of mine made 1.25 million last year trading off the 5 min and 1 min chart holds for less the 10 seconds , so thats your beef with TA , protecting others. Yo others it take Years and 10 of thousands to educate yourself to do this , cost of any education. Dont try this if your an old timer , Young you can do it too in time if you are mathematically gifted and have a brain for ...more  
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 06, 2022 6:34pm
Sure...
Comment by Boulter on Nov 06, 2022 1:33pm
My strategy is to attempt to buy low, which I first did around $15 or $18 back in late 2014.  BTE had "recently" been in the $50s.  Over the years, I kept getting opportunities to buy lower, and lower, and lower.  Now probably sitting at 3 dozen buy transactions and 3 or 4 sell/donate transactions to sit at a cost base of low $2s and mid 6 figures number of shares for 40 ...more  
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 06, 2022 3:44pm
"A volatile stock on the rebound, is ideal for this kind of strategy. Baytex has been, and will probably continue to be, a great stock for this strategy." I like it i like it alot , should check out the copper stocks CS , HBM , FM have fun
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 06, 2022 6:33pm
Hey cobalt!  I postedabout 1 week ago that it was time to buy HNU...Bought at $10.98...Trading at $14+ Friday...Up 9% right now...That's another 18% so about $16...But thx for the picks... Mas
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 06, 2022 6:54pm
Nice trade i could not take it parameters were not ment should have just held my buy at a 25 oversold RSI, always another train cheers
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 06, 2022 11:12pm
Over the last 11 years the last week of October NG starts to climb for about 4 weeks. This year it actually dropped due to the record breaking heatwavesin Europe and over here.  Anyhow I posted toyou specifically about HNU last week as I figured you would take look for yourself and agree taht it was time to buy.  Cheers!  And  'NO" I am not trading BTE...
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 06, 2022 11:54pm
I needed a better set up in the widow maker 10 months of returns to protect , glide path baby
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 07, 2022 10:21am
A better window??? Ok I guess but now it's at $17 for a 60% gain...If you are going to be UNBIASED about your ability to read the technicals, and since you keep posting about how well you do with them, should you not post when your "analysis" prevents you making a 60% in 1 week?
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 07, 2022 11:45am
Seasonality got you in , Seasonality is keeping me out after this small pop it is down till Feb weather pending. I'm playing it long in other names, need a much higher conviction to put on the widowmaker this late in the season over my other trades. Not even sure if seasonality will stand up this year with EU and the war and covid china good luck
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 08, 2022 1:21pm
well that went too cr*p fast the window maker hope ya got out with some green?
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 08, 2022 5:34pm
Yippers!!! Got out in the $16 range.  Rebought today in the $12.75 range.
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 08, 2022 6:06pm
Good stuff, oh wait that is not how it works, i'm supposed to demand the post showing us you sold tee hee
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 08, 2022 9:06pm
Not the same thing.  I posted that info because you specifically asked for it.  Get the difference?
Comment by Maxmoe on Nov 09, 2022 5:36am
Even less interesting when the flip talk ain't even about bte. Get a room. Chat room that is. 
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 09, 2022 10:26am
Down 11% what kind of stop loss do you use on the widow maker?
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 09, 2022 12:20pm
None.  added some more this morning.