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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum B2Gold Corp T.BTO

Alternate Symbol(s):  BTG

B2Gold Corp. is an international gold producer. The Company has operating gold mines in Mali, Namibia and the Philippines, the Goose Project under construction in northern Canada, and numerous development and exploration projects in various countries, including Mali, Colombia, and Finland. The Fekola Mine is located in southwest Mali, on the border between Mali and Senegal, approximately 500... see more

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B2Gold Corp > Should I buy back BTO?
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Post by LiLy2021 on Jan 07, 2022 4:14pm

Should I buy back BTO?

Happy new year to you all!

After keeping on averaging down on this stock, I paused for a moment and thought this is not right. Despite gold price marching higher and the company being in much better financial shape than it was the year before, share price was only moving in one direction: down. I was already down -67k on this stock. Fortunately, I was up six figure on VET, so that was enough to cover my loss from weed and gold. 

I could no longer sit on this coquettish "princess" and see her tantalizing me with a few cents up and down (down on most days) when people are busy booking 5-15% profit every single day on energy stocks. I sold most of my BTO and a few ETFs and bank stocks and ready to join the party. I made a mistake when I invested a large sum into SU, following the adage "go with the biggest". Bought at around the same time, while VET has a return of 45%, it's a mediocre 2.4% from SU. Despite feeling so strongly about VET and asking around if anybody was owning both VET and SU and if they were thinking about converting SU to VET and I wanted to hear their logic behind such decision, I made no changes to my holdings. 

Having learnt a lesson from SU, this time I said "screw the size". I went with a few much smaller names that I felt very confident would bring outsized gains, two of which are OBE and SGY. Oh my God!  I don't know what happened to this stock OBE but it has returned 50% within two weeks from the time I bought it (last trading day before Christmas holidays). Collectively, it's a 35% profit for me. I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about trading or investing, so I booked my six figure profit from OBE today and thinking about what to do with it. 

I don't know if I should buy back BTO.   What circumstances would result in a positive movement on this stock?  This is the first miner I've invested in and it's only been 6 months, but here are my observations:  

1.  If gold price goes up by a small amount, this stock either goes down or stays flat.  Sometimes it even tanks.

2. If gold price goes up a lot, it will go stay flat or go up by a small amount.  Sometimes it even tanks. 

3. If gold price tanks hard, this stock will go through a blood bath. 

4. If Fed increases interest, it will tank hard. 

5. If Fed decreases rates, it will tank even harder. 

6. If the world will have to go through another pandemic, just like what we're going through right now, I can say without a sliver of doubt that this stock will perform similarly to how it's been performing. 

What would make this stock go UP?  I have to ask because I'm not too excited about losing money on it again. 

Thank you for your insights and wishing you all a happy and prosperous new year. As we always say at the beginning of the year:  gng x f ci.

Comment by tootall123 on Jan 07, 2022 5:11pm
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Comment by LiLy2021 on Jan 07, 2022 6:12pm
  Geez, no idea why people seem to be getting on all of your 720 billion nerves every time they ask a legitimate question. Your replies are always "get lost," "get the hell out," "full of BS". Can you ever offer anything more civilized? Speaking of being locked up in a closet, I was going to ask you the same question. You kept saying that gold is the money ...more  
Comment by tootall123 on Jan 07, 2022 6:51pm
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Comment by LiLy2021 on Jan 07, 2022 11:32pm
  Mr. Tootall123, you sound so much like my parents. :-). They always refer to our generation as being "spoiled" and "entitled". While I think that every generation has its own challenges, yours had it much easier than ours. Think about it: a high school dropout from your generation was able to buy a house, two cars, support three kids and a stay-at-home spouse and take ...more  
Comment by tootall123 on Jan 08, 2022 6:44am
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Comment by LiLy2021 on Jan 08, 2022 9:55am
Heheheh...Good morning Mr. Tootall123, I said I own 8 properties in Toronto at the age of 27. I am not 27 now. Many people at this age have already made a legacy for themselves and have done deeds that made an impactful change to the world, so owning 8 properties in Toronto or being financially independent means nothing in comparison.  Like I said, your generation and mine have very ...more  
Comment by tootall123 on Jan 08, 2022 10:24am
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Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 09, 2022 11:48am
Good posts Lily...........it appears you've got a good head on your shoulders and are on the right track. Perhaps you maybe younger than Total by age but obviously much more advanced in terms of wisdom, intellect and open mindedness. Nobody knows everything but everyone knows something.............you obviously have a better grasp of that than he. I'm likely closer to his age btw.
Comment by LiLy2021 on Jan 09, 2022 4:52pm
Thank you, Sir, for your kind words, but I can only accept the open-mindedness. :-)  Speaking of wisdom, I remember Confucius once said:  "There are three methods to gain wisdom. First, by by reflection, which is the noblest; second, by imitation, which is the easiest; and third, by experience, which is the bitterest."  I'm only trying to earn wisdom by the most ...more  
Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 09, 2022 7:24pm
The general market valuations of most companies are extremely high ........to the point of ridiculous in many of the growth stocks, tech stocks, etc.....ie Tesla. Look at the NASDAQ.......it's been selling off. The one thing right now that the oil/gas companies and the gold miners have in common.........they both offer value. They are cheap and selling at very low valuations by historical ...more  
Comment by llihevad1 on Jan 10, 2022 6:39am
The problem with BTO is there are to many shares... With cash in the bank of about 15% to 20% of the total value of the company they need to consider a NCIB... Why buy additional operations when the market does not even recognize the current value of the company. I am under as well but am going to add to my position...At $1,800 an ounce this is a cash cow...
Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 10, 2022 7:54am
Currently the market does not recognize the value of any of the gold miners which is precisely the the opportune time for a well cashed up miner to aquire strategic assets for pennies on the dollar. You shop when things are on sale, not when they are over priced.
Comment by llihevad1 on Jan 10, 2022 8:48am
Looking at P/E of various gold companies I must disagree... The devil you know is always better than one you do not...   P/E Barrick Gold Corporation 16.80 Newmont Corporation 23.40 Franco-Nevada Corporation 35.80 Agnico Eagle Mines Limited 19.40 Kirkland Lake ...more  
Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 10, 2022 10:05am
Most of those you have listed there are major minors . Not likely BTO is in the market to buy the likes of Barrick, Newmont , Franco, etc. To clarify...... the mid-cap gold miners and juniors are undervalued. Forward PE BTO.....8.31 EDV.....9.34 YRI......12.8 K........8.3 CXB.....4.10 Eqx.....4.11
Comment by llihevad1 on Jan 10, 2022 10:22am
What is your definition of Mid-Cap? Company Value or Gold Produced
Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 10, 2022 10:38am
mid-tier miners..........500,000 to approx 1.5 M ounces annually.
Comment by ASHRAM on Jan 10, 2022 12:26pm
why bto is down more than other gold stock any news.keep holding.
Comment by brewster123 on Jan 10, 2022 12:52pm
West African states have imposed economic sanctions on Mali today and closed their borders with Mali.
Comment by Myharleybike on Jan 11, 2022 2:11pm
Over a Billion shares may have someting to do with it, I guess
Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 11, 2022 6:17pm
Comment by alvarez2 on Jan 11, 2022 6:18pm
Comment by llihevad1 on Jan 10, 2022 1:50pm
Lazy man analysis... Top 10 gold producing companies in the world two of which produce less then 1.5M ounces Removed all negative P/E ratio's and included only market cap of $500M, did not convert CAD/USD but put in the exchange BTO is getting no respect... They need to start buying back their shares, best way to invest in a functioning mine while giveing value back to the investor... Just ...more  
Comment by llihevad1 on Jan 10, 2022 1:55pm
Chart did not present very well.. Take two Symbol Company  Latest Price MCQ P/E Market Cap. Quarter exch Wght NEM Newmont Mining Corp  $    59.43  $    23.49  $  47,392 Jun-21 NYSE  ...more  
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