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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Baylin Technologies Inc T.BYL

Alternate Symbol(s):  BYLTF | T.BYL.DB

Baylin Technologies Inc. is a Canada-based diversified, global wireless technology company. The Company is focused on the research, design, development, manufacturing and sales of passive and active radio frequency products, satellite communications products, and supporting services. The Company’s products are marketed and sold under the brand names Galtronics, and Advantech Wireless. The... see more

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Baylin Technologies Inc > Debenture Resolution
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Post by mrmoribund on Apr 19, 2021 12:17pm

Debenture Resolution

I'd recommend shareholders read the discussion of the Debenture Resolution on pages 18-21 of the April 13 circular. As I thought should happen, Mr. Royer will not be able to vote on it. From page 20:


"In accordance with the rules of the TSX, the Debenture Resolution requires approval of the majority of votes cast at the Meeting, in person or by proxy. Those rules also require, in this case, that the approval is given on a disinterested basis, meaning that any common shares held by, or over which control or direction is exercised by, any insider of the Company or associate or affiliate of the insider who also holds Debentures must be excluded from the vote. As a result, the 21,570,942 common shares over which Mr. Royer exercises control and direction, as well as the 967,740 common shares held by the family trust, will be excluded in tabulating the vote for TSX purposes on the Debenture Resolution."


So how should shareholders vote on this? This is a tough one because to cast a truly informed vote you will arguably need a fuller knowledge of the company's financial picture looking out over the rest of the year than is publicly available.

If you believe that the company is not in any sort of financial distress then you will surely want to vote against the Debenture Resolution because you would have to see it as the debentureholders giving a gift to themselves at the expense of current shareholders. As the table at the bottom of page 19 in the circular shows, the dilution from this could be substantial and it's also impossible to know how substantial in advance because it will depend on what the New Conversion Price will be. For example, if the New Conversion Price is $1.00 then the number of new common shares created by conversion of all the debentures would be 17,250,000. And if the New Conversion Price were even lower? As (and if) it goes lower, this will push up the number of new common shares created exponentially.

Now look at this from page 18 of the circular:

"If the Debenture Resolution is adopted at the Meeting, the New Conversion Price will be determined based the volume-weighted average trading price of the common shares on the TSX for the five consecutive trading days (excluding any days during the Company’s general blackout period under its Confidentiality and Insider Trading Policy) ending on the day before the effective date of the Amendment. The timing of the determination of the New Conversion Price is intended to allow sufficient time for review of our financial results for the first quarter of 2021, scheduled to be released on May 10, 2021. The terms of the Debentures will otherwise remain unchanged."

This should be seen as kind of scary for shareholders. While the circular doesn't seem entirely clear as to when exactly this 5-day period will be, it's clear that it will be AFTER the May 11 meeting. This next part is important.

The Q1 financial results will be released on May 10, which will be AFTER the votes have been cast. The key point here is that if the Debenture Resolution is already certain to be passed (by the votes that have already been cast) and then Q1 turns out to be ugly . . . well . . . look out below. This could send the stock into a significant death spiral situation. The basic idea is that the lower the stock would go (post-May 11), the lower the expected New Conversion Price would go, and the higher the EXPECTED number of new shares would be created following conversion of the debentures.

This could create a cascading of expectations where:

(1) a falling stock price

leads to

(2) expectations of a lower New Conversion Price

leads to

(3) expectations of more new shares to be created (growing exponentially as the expected New Conversion Price falls)

leads to

(4) the stock price falling even further in advance of (or during) the five days when the New Conversion Price will be determined.

You can see why this is called a death spiral. The process will tend to feed on itself.

Now, of course, if Q1 results are really good there will likely be no death spiral. There could even be a bit of a boost upward as investors anticipate an even smaller number of new shares created than they may have initially feared.

But the problem is that shareholders are being required to vote on this BEFORE they have any idea how Q1 results will look. It's a little like being asked to jump out of a plane without being allowed to know if your parachute will fully open. If it does fully open you could descend to a really nice place. But it might only half-open. Or worse.

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So are there any reasons why a shareholder might vote in favour of the Debenture Resolution? Well, getting those debentures converted would make the balance sheet look better.

But here's the problem. The more you believe the company is financially in a tight spot (and hence needs its balance sheet cleaned up at the cost of dilution) the more you should be fearful that Q1 results will be ugly--which will tend to make the New Conversion Price lower, which will in turn make the dilution even worse, etc.

I would vote against.

And if shareholders approve this thing and end up having half the common equity drop into the laps of the current debentureholders, well, it will have been their own doing.
Comment by mitochondria on Apr 19, 2021 3:53pm
  Thanks for this post and the breakdown provided, what timing.
Comment by ciretaka198 on Apr 19, 2021 8:17pm
I don't think its a tough decision . I'm sure Mr Royer has a great big heart and lies awake at night thinking of ways to save us poor little minorty share holders and that is how they hatched this plan. I just can not let him sacrifice himself like this. So I am voting no..I don't like the Idea of him grabbing a larger percentage of this company without going to the public market.I ...more  
Comment by mrmoribund on Apr 20, 2021 10:40am
If you read to the end of my earlier post on this subject you'll see that I don't ultimately think it's a tough decision either. But in writing a post like that I want to do my best to approach the subject from an initial stance of impartiality. I want to make the best arguments I can for both sides of the question. So you want to honestly wrestle with this. Is there any case where ...more  
Comment by skibum45 on Apr 20, 2021 4:34pm
Thanks for the thoughtful posts mrmoribund. Agree with your thinking, though still not sure I'd vote against it. As I see it, us retail shareholders are going to see dilution no matter what. Looks like debenture holders want some cheap shares. They'll either get what they're asking for in which case we end up with dilution but at least debentures are off the books.... or they won't ...more  
Comment by mrmoribund on Apr 21, 2021 9:15am
A reasonable enough point of view. It certainly will be helpful to the company's situation if the debentures can be made to go away. The question is, under what terms? And if the company can manage well enough with the debentures where they are, then why shouldn't debentureholders simply remain bound to the terms that were agreed upon when they were issued? Remember, under the Debenture ...more  
Comment by ciretaka198 on Apr 21, 2021 11:17am
To Skibum Your statement "The fact that Royer wants to convert his debentures bodes well for the future" should be enough to say then why do this now? The vietnam plant is near completion The 5g spectrum auction was wildly sucessful Some debenture holders(Royer) dont mind taking shares instead of cash so what is the hurry? If they have to do an equity raise it won't be because of ...more  
Comment by Sikong on Apr 21, 2021 11:25pm
I just received my voting package and have voted against the amendment. if they had proposed a fixed conversion price, say half of the original price, I might vote for it. My reasoning is simple: in the normal world, if you sign a mortgage agreement at a fixed rate for five years, you cannot simply adjust the rate at any time when you find the current rate is much lower without any ...more  
Comment by skibum45 on Apr 22, 2021 1:43pm
For what it's worth, despite my previous comments I voted against amendment for debenture conversion. Ultimately the terms aren't at all clear... we're being asked to vote for a debenture conversion with a price TBD, based on results not yet released.  That said, I'll be amazed if it doesn't go through. Despite voting against, conversion may still be the most direct route ...more  
Comment by BIGMOE on Apr 22, 2021 1:52pm
My thought that Baylon Management need to come clean.  Why do we need to give special treatement to the Debenture holders.  Does the company need cash immediately?  What is the conversion price?  It seems to me that the Debenture holders are getting sweet deal and the expense of small share holders.  I will vote no. I also think the CEO and the Board need to be replaced.
Comment by mrmoribund on Apr 22, 2021 5:47pm
Probably lots of Baylin shareholders think the board and CEO should be replaced. And that highlights a key issue with Baylin. All that matters is what one particular shareholder thinks. Jeffrey Royer controls the show. If he wants to stay loyal to Randy Dewey no matter what then there is no way for anyone else to do anything about it. Mr. Dewey can forget to file his SEDI reports on time until ...more  
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