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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Calfrac Well Services Ltd T.CFW

Alternate Symbol(s):  CFWFF

Calfrac Well Services Ltd. is an independent provider of specialized oilfield services in North America and Argentina, including hydraulic fracturing, coiled tubing, cementing and other well stimulation services. Its North America segment provides fracturing services to oil and natural gas companies operating in the Williston Basin located in North Dakota and the broader Rockies region. Its... see more

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Post by BigWillie on Jan 11, 2021 11:24pm

pik notes

Gents, if someone can clarify that would be highly appreciated. I am reading the indenture for issuing pik notes. It is rather bulky document, and I am not sure I am getting it right. Chapter 4, conversion is where I read that conversion rate is 750 shares for each 1000$ principle. A few conditions, some adjustments, but really what it means that 60 mil cash infusion from pik notes will dilute Calfrac by another 45 mil shares. What am I missing, I must be missing something.
Comment by HugeCrane on Jan 12, 2021 12:45am
Who cares. $300 million in debt on the balance sheet. That's all you should be reading right now. Over and over and over. 
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 12, 2021 10:55am
HugeCrane - You are correct about the debt levels but I think you need to look at what kind of cash flow this thing can generate in a non 2020 type year when oil doesn't go to zero, and also consider what it means that George Armoyan has added capital and taken a Board seat.  I think that capital structure has been made "adequate" for now and I don't expect to see a " ...more  
Comment by HugeCrane on Jan 13, 2021 6:48pm
I don't think we will see a going concern statement for the next several quarters but I still think George is only on the board to eventually stronghand a merger with Trican. I agree it could generate some decent cash flow, but that cash flow will be servicing debt for the foreseeable future. And George never added capital. It was a debt for ownership restructure. He was basically handed ...more  
Comment by Holdernko123 on Jan 13, 2021 7:44pm
I agree that cfw will be combined with tcw. Tcw sold its us business a few years ago. I think these two company combined is good for both.
Comment by HugeCrane on Jan 14, 2021 12:48am
And to add. Clark sold shares today. So if anything Georgey boy is pulling capital. HOWEVER. I strongly believe any stock selling by Clark is being done out of necessity given it is a public company. Clark also sold some Trican today. Honestly not a horrible time to sell considering where we have come from, plus when the two companies combine they won't need those shares anyways. 
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 14, 2021 7:39am
Clarke has to sell shares held in their pension plan by regulatory mandate. btw - calfrac has about $100m in cash 
Comment by 2020oilgamble on Jan 14, 2021 10:13am
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Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 14, 2021 3:33pm
HugeCrane - it is relatively easy to ball park the debt service costs and compare that to a normal year's EBITDA.  They have two pieces of remaining current interest debt. I think ou will find that the EBITDA from a "normal" year easily covers those debt service costs and that there would in fact be a significant amount of free cash flow. Also, from my reading of the facts ...more  
Comment by BigWillie on Jan 16, 2021 10:59am
Ownership wasn't for nothing, the way I read it, debt for ownership was rouhly 12$ per share. Hense was my PIK Notes question, how is that they are converted at 1.33$ per share, it doesn't make sense. Also, to your previous posts a few days ago, it is not 37 mil, not 43 or 53 million but 100 mil shares fully diluted, considering PIk Notes PIK'ed and converted. I could not care less ...more  
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 16, 2021 2:53pm
If you dig into the circular you will find that the PIK financing was done under the hardship exemption. The terms were obviously very favourable for the capital providers.  
Comment by Holdernko123 on Jan 17, 2021 12:39am
I don't understand why $C60 m 1.5Lien Load can take 53% shares and $US 431 m Note only take 38% shares?
Comment by BigWillie on Jan 17, 2021 11:15pm
those 60 million are principal value, which was exchanged at various actual rates, anywhere from 4.3$ to 17.7$ of junk-debt dollars per post-consolidated shares of Calfrac. I am talking former unsecure noteholders trading their notes for new pik notes and converting them into post-consolidated shares of Calfrac. Clear as mud, isn't it? The end point is, nobody is selling at profit at ...more  
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 18, 2021 9:10am
With respect I don't think that is quite right.  The former senior debentureholders converted their debt into equity.  Armoyan as an example was a debt holder.  My guess would be he bought that debt in the market at a huge discount because that is what he does but I don't know that for sure. In addition, new capital $60m was raised (and used to reduce other debts) by issuing ...more  
Comment by BigWillie on Jan 18, 2021 2:59pm
thank you Contrarian, you are the best contribution to this forum. The circular you pointed me out to reads like a novel, must have been very dramatic Summer for Calfrac.
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 18, 2021 6:49pm
Thanks BigWillie - yes, its a pretty thick document.........maybe part of the reason why there seems to be some confusion around what the value proposition is...........but the more I dig, the more I think we may have a mispriced security here.
Comment by Holdernko123 on Jan 20, 2021 1:11am
Thanks Contrarian333. You provided great information for the group. I agree that CFW is really under valued. There are two main reasons, first, CFW paid the tender shareholder $0.15 cents cash per share = $7.5 per share plus 2 warrents. Second, all oil & gas related stocks have been up more than 2 times, only CFW is lower than orignal price $7.5 per share which was proposed in September, 2020.
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jan 12, 2021 10:50am
You are correct!
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