Join today and have your say! It’s FREE!

Become a member today, It's free!

We will not release or resell your information to third parties without your permission.
Please Try Again
{{ error }}
By providing my email, I consent to receiving investment related electronic messages from Stockhouse.

or

Sign In

Please Try Again
{{ error }}
Password Hint : {{passwordHint}}
Forgot Password?

or

Please Try Again {{ error }}

Send my password

SUCCESS
An email was sent with password retrieval instructions. Please go to the link in the email message to retrieve your password.

Become a member today, It's free!

We will not release or resell your information to third parties without your permission.
Quote  |  Bullboard  |  News  |  Opinion  |  Profile  |  Peers  |  Filings  |  Financials  |  Options  |  Price History  |  Ratios  |  Ownership  |  Insiders  |  Valuation

Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Cardinal Energy Ltd (Alberta) T.CJ

Alternate Symbol(s):  CRLFF

Cardinal Energy Ltd. is a Canadian oil and natural gas company with operations focused on low decline oil in Western Canada. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, development, optimization and production of crude oil and natural gas in the provinces of Alberta, British Columbia and Saskatchewan. Its operating areas include the Midale, South District, Central District, and North District... see more

TSX:CJ - Post Discussion

Cardinal Energy Ltd (Alberta) > Should CJ Be Interested In GXE?
View:
Post by Quintessential1 on Sep 30, 2023 4:01pm

Should CJ Be Interested In GXE?

I see GXE put themselves up for sale and according to EN they are looking to unlock value at higher commodity prices.  Okay but do they desrve it?  Like Laurention Bank, just because you want a premium doesn't mean you should get it.  I think putting yourself up for sale demonstartes weakness.

They have some operations that overlap with CJ's on a geographic basis so maybe there are synergies and efficiencies to be had and at a decent discount to what GXE could be trading at if WTI pricing stays at $90 and GXE digs themselves out of their debt whole themselves as I expect they will eventually.  Honestly they just sort of jumped the gun on their divy cut as it is more than affordable now with some debt reduction room left over.  

So how would investors here feel about a 1:7 share exchange offer for GXE?  At current share prices it only represents a 20% premium to GXE shareholders but would almost double the existing  dividend yield they are getting making it almost like the cut never happened.  In return CJ gets more reserves overlapping with their operations and a pick and choose labour pool with some potential upside for CJ shareholders based on 52 week highs.  Is it even worth considering for what amounts to 5-10% overall upside?

I don't do flowing barrel calcs and comparisons so if somebody else would like to and  add it to the post for consideration it would be appreciated by me and maybe others here. 

Also I know there are a few GXE shareholders that either monitor or hold CJ shares here so feel free to weigh in with an opinion or even a GFY Q.  LOL I can take it.

GLTA
Comment by JayBanks on Sep 30, 2023 4:33pm
Could we not pick up all of GXE and maybe split it with someone else just taking on the areas that work well with us? Lower the acquisition costs, premium or no premium... and I'd rather take it on debt than shares... I have no real interest in being debt free unless there is no sensible acquisition opportunities. I like leverage that makes sence, let the experts of the company use thier ...more  
Comment by Quintessential1 on Sep 30, 2023 6:17pm
Okay the market cap is $235M but you won't get it at face value so $275M to buy them up if they agree to a 20% premium and then at your $40M FCF forecast 2 years to pay that off.  No new shares issued and a .01 cent div increase to CJ share holders bringing it up to $.07 per month or $.84 per year making the yield  just over 11% per year.  Oddly enough GXE has over 1.5 times ...more  
Comment by JayBanks on Sep 30, 2023 9:05pm
Haha, the "quintupling of the debt" is just relative... if we had less debt that X number is bigger and if they carried more debt your saying it would be less noticeable... Other than that yes you laid it out quite well... to eat the whole company it extends the length of time expected to get back to where we are now debt wise... but we get bigger, hopefully get synergies, get more FCF ...more  
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 01, 2023 9:27am
LOL .  You're right the quintupling of the debt is relative but does put it into perspective especially for a company that has been beating the zero debt drum for over a year now.  I also agree that zero debt is not necessarily in the company's best interest and I am pretty sure that they stated acquisitions to increase production and reserves over ruled that plan. Yeah a split ...more  
Comment by tylerreddick on Sep 30, 2023 6:15pm
GXE is second rate scattered assets, and they have a ton of decommissioning liabilities. But if CJ could pick them up for under a buck, it may not be the worst deal. But they should definitely avoid paying more than that.
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 01, 2023 10:01am
Ok I do not believe that GXE management or shareholders would approve a bid under $1 but maybe you are right and they would and maybe it is not worth bidding on over that amount. So your offer would lower that share ratio to about 1 for 8 shares which would only add 30 - 40 million shares to the float or 230 million to the debt for a cash offer or 4.6 times the current debt. I don't see a ...more  
Comment by tylerreddick on Oct 01, 2023 4:03pm
Doesn't matter if GXE would accpet a $1 offer, just that no one should pay more than that. Their assets simply aren't that valuable.
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 02, 2023 4:56am
I don't know Td.  According to Jay CJ could get payback within 2 years and increase the div by 1 cent per month all on lands that overlap CJs and have 10 years of production.   That might be worth the 20% premium GLTY and all 
Comment by Pottsy on Oct 02, 2023 7:55am
All acquisitions have issues, hidden ghosts, Cj is doing well. Current major investors may not like the risks causing changes in a stable management. It's too small to risk buying a company that is imploding.  Just my take.   P
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 02, 2023 12:54pm
I hear ya Pottsy and I am sure that the major investor would be consulted before an offer is made and of course all shareholders would get a vote before an acquisition went forward. As for GXE imploding it would be prudent to examine if they actually are so as not to pass up a deal. With GXE cutting the div it sure didn't look good but even EN said on BNN Friday that he thought the cut was ...more  
Comment by Pottsy on Oct 02, 2023 5:47pm
Great analysis as usual Q1, thanks, yes I may be too simplistic in my summary. BUT time will tell and as we know things change. Look at today,  China influences, great traders opportunity but will CJ recover or not, I mean the stock is at low of $7.08 with a close of $7.11 but an open of $7.39.  Really. OIL down 2.4%,  This is why I trade. Oil will continue to be volatile. As you ...more  
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 02, 2023 6:09pm
Thanks P.  Actually I think I am starting to come around to yours and Td's view if not my first thoughts. I had originally posted that putting themselves up for sale is a sign of weakness so why a premium? If they can get it for just under $1 per share or perhaps a 1 for 8 share exchange it would be worth it? At 1 for 8 that's about 90 cents a share a CJ current share price and ...more  
Comment by JayBanks on Oct 03, 2023 5:09pm
It only cost us $25 Million for GXE... lol Does anyone one know who this actually might have belonged to? Is it just a previously private holding that might have had to run for the exits or needed the cash? They don't do a good job in the initial press releases of identifying the previous holder.
Comment by Pottsy on Oct 03, 2023 5:18pm
Hey buddy, read the info it is a partial acquisition. Not sure how the market will react.    P
Comment by meritmat on Oct 02, 2023 7:06pm
  Unless it's top tier assets don't waste your money.  Gear has nothing 
Comment by egee on Oct 02, 2023 7:14pm
Before results , just before, just after. Gear gets into a potential bidding war at oil prices today .  Kinda great timing on their part
Comment by egee on Oct 02, 2023 7:15pm
Petty cash for the big bois
Comment by tylerreddick on Oct 03, 2023 9:55am
Bidding war for GXE? Hahahahahahahahaha
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 03, 2023 10:16am
GXE was trading at 80 cents a share and moving lower before they announced they were for sale. This could turn out a lot like LB with no bidders or buyers and send the stock down further. That might be a better time to try and make a deal. In the meantime they should be putting out a monthly report in 20 days showing how they did in September.  If it was better and I was GXE I would do my ...more  
Comment by Quintessential1 on Oct 14, 2023 10:32am
Why wait 20 days when you can pay BOE to pump it in half the time. https://boereport.com/2023/10/11/gear-energy-post-announcement-asset-review-boe-intel/ In light of the recent tuck-in acquisition, should GXE still be on CJ's shopping list if it ever was at all? I would say CJ is in a better position to negotiate.  It is always better to make a deal when you do not necessarily need to ...more  
Comment by Pottsy on Oct 14, 2023 5:14pm
My take Q1, is nada, so much going on, the stock is going to rise and fall for two reasons, oil price and the manipulators. Sorry Bro, just my simple view.   P
Comment by lnggasfor202324 on Oct 15, 2023 3:29pm
We should be heading higher with oil prices rising.  I beleive all these oil and gas companies are trading at historical low multiples.  We may also have a short squeeze on are hands.  I sure wouldn't want to be short on any oil company now in fact I hjave options and a boat load of shares.
Comment by meritmat on Oct 03, 2023 5:07pm
well they did buy something
Comment by lashing on Oct 16, 2023 2:59pm
NO CJ doesnt need more "assets" that are short end of life turds
The Market Update
{{currentVideo.title}} {{currentVideo.relativeTime}}
< Previous bulletin
Next bulletin >

At the Bell logo
A daily snapshot of everything
from market open to close.

{{currentVideo.companyName}}
{{currentVideo.intervieweeName}}{{currentVideo.intervieweeTitle}}
< Previous
Next >
Dealroom for high-potential pre-IPO opportunities