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Cline Mining Corporation > Pitfals of TARD-MATH
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Post by GEEE on May 28, 2011 7:06pm

Pitfals of TARD-MATH

GOD's fairy tale TARD-MATH is best example
( same as those GOD's stunts about uneconomical $$ billions in ground LOL)
how one can lose life time savings betting on such TARD- MATH.
( ie. $320/t - 150 cost = $billions in profits... LOOOOOOOL )
GEEESUS ..have mercy on the " Einsteins".

According to GOD's TRAD-MATH 1 machine will produce 0.9mt in 6 months.
CMK has 1 machine producing since Dec 2010 and will have another one
producing starting July.

So, God's TARD-MATH suggests CMK will produce 2.7 mt in 2011.

YET ,CMK said, they will produce 350kt 2011...LOOOOOOL
7.7 TIMES LESS THAN GOD'S TARD- MATH
Geeeesus.

Applying that ratio to God's TARD- TARGET of $ 7 ...the real PPS target is 0.7 $

Notice how tards lowered their "targets" over last months from $ 30 , to $ 20 ,to $15 ,to $ 10 , to $ 7 to $ 5 ..
This REALITY CHECK process is not finished yet till they will go down to $ 2 ....LOOOL


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Example of such TARD-MATH applied to GCE

One P&H 2800XPC heavy duty electric mining shovel scoops a 65 ton (59 metric ton) and loads that on a truck in 5 min
https://www.cfhi.com/en/upload/2008/9/%E6%88%91%E5%9B%BD%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%8F%B02800xpb%E7%9F%BF%E7%94%A8%E6%8C%96%E6%8E%98%E6%9C%BA%EF%BC%881986%EF%BC%89%E5%B9%B3%E6%BA%AF%E5%AE%89%E5%AE%B6%E5%B2%AD.jpg


That's 600 t /hr = 2 TIMES MORE than continuous miner

IN 20 HOURS THAT IS 12, 000 TONS a day

IN A 25 day MONTH THAT IS 300,000 TONS

IN 6 MONTHS THAT IS 1.800,000 m tons , 3.6m t in 1 y

AND THAT IS ONE MACHINE.

GCE has 3 such machines DEPLOYED ALREADY AND WORKING AS WE SPEAK.
vs CMK having 1/10 the GCE capacity installed now

THAT's 10.8 mt a year .theoretical production calculated the "GOD's (read - tard's) way "

Yet, GCE will produce this year ( till FY end March 31 ,2012) only 2.4 mt

4.5 times less than theory and almost 2 times better ratio than CMK 7.7 "less than theory."(evidence of relative superior GCE efficiency )

SO MUCH FOR GOD's " TARD-MATH " LOOOOL


It will take GCE 1 Y and $ 80m capex to increase production of this INSTALLED ALREADY CAPACITY of 3.5 mt to max possible 3.5 mt production
Final ratio is 3 times less the theory .

CMK RATIO :prod to theory AFTER 2 Y of STREAMLINING =end 2012
- divide it at least by 4 .
Meanwhile CMK has 1/10 the GCE capacity installed now


My tard-math is 2-3 times better , closer to reality than GOD's or tard -Cooper's.

Yes, GCE will produce 3.5mt in 2012 and onward.
( if market conditions = finding customers will allow)

CMK in 2012 will be in process of buying and installing
the capacity GCE BOUGHT AND INSTALLED 3 months ago.

To streamline the process AFTER INSTALLING 10 miners ,CMK
will need another , YEAR and say,$ 60m capex in 2012

( = same as GCE needs $ 80 m capex AFTER GCE installed equiv of 10 miners capacity )
to get production to target. 1 Y - 1.5 Y LATER than GCE.


CMK IS 1 - 1.5 Y BEHIND GCE to produce 0.5 mt less than GCE.
and in need of another ,say $ 60 m capex /2012
-according to / applying GCE development data /experience.
THAT's ANOTHER 20 m sh dilution COMING 2012 geeesus

This time lag equals to GCE having $ 100m - 200m more cash than CMK
and no debt by end 2012

GCE shares 97 m ,say 100m
CMK after dilution 218 m

CMK will NEVER ( or at least in next 10 Y ) catch up to GCE

2011 GCE ( FY end March 31 2012) 2.4 mt prod
2011 CMK 350kt prod.= 8 TIMES LESS !!!!!!! GEEEESUS


IS CMK PPS 17 TIMES LOWER THAN GCE ???
(8 times less prod x 2 .2 more shares)

GCE $ 8.3 : 17 = 50c CMK TRAGET 2011.


All that at GCE slightly overpriced PPS. Means even lover CMK target if GCE will tank further.

What is GCE and CMK record of delivering on promised prod volumes ?

GCE 33/66 hit /miss ,but at least not a fraud.
If miss, than average 20-25%.

CMK 100% RECORD OF BIG MISS by 70% bordering on disclosure fraud

If any of them is a good investment ( which is a question in those slowing down economies and lower / flat at best market)
than GCE is.

More here

https://stockhouse.com/Bullboards/MessageDetail.aspx?p=0&m=29777421&l=0&r=0&s=CMK&t=LIST

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Comment by GEEE on May 29, 2011 4:33am
Miner's experience and common logic say a NORMAL MINE utilize it's machines at MAX. 60% their NOMINAL NAMEPLATE CAPACITY. APPARENTLY CMK IS NOT A "NORMAL MINE" They will in 2011 install 2.7mt nameplate capacity 1 mach = 13 months + 1 machine 6 months. Yet, they will produce 350kt 2011 vs previous LIES of 1.2 mt . 8 times less is 12.5 % the name plate capacity. IS THAT ...more  
Comment by miner8740 on May 29, 2011 10:28am
previous production records may indicate the issues the past owner had with regards to mining such seamsthin seam, geological faults, ground issues, ash content , poor quality, etc, such factors may easily led to mining companies not reaching its targetsmininh rock with continious mining machines will tear the machine apart and hence , lower the efficiency, at some stages may have to revert to ...more  
Comment by miner8740 on May 29, 2011 4:55pm
Class action lawsuit against rimm, could this may happen to CMK  for misrepresentation shareholders at annual meeting, i suspect management may be running scare now
Comment by GEEE on May 30, 2011 7:24pm
CMK LONG TERM RATIO of clean coal to dug-out stuff ( waste ) looks like 30% coal See their Tech Rep- Waste storage - 3 mt /y = they calculated 50/ 50 waste / ROMAdd washing and out of ROM we have 60% clean coal ** (tailings storage is separate from dry waste) So , 1 mt dug out stuff , = 500kt ROM coal = 300kt clean coal.3mt dug out = 900kt.clean coal 3mt clean coal sales mean 10mt mining vol ...more  
Comment by lashout on May 30, 2011 9:38pm
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Comment by pull1 on May 31, 2011 6:45am
Geee, I think you are one big arschloch and basher, I should not have listened to you.  Why would you write comments on this board if you do not believe in this company.  You better give me good reason why I should not reinvest in this stock.
Comment by pull1 on May 31, 2011 2:21pm
I have the feeling that GEEE is just a computer spam program which sends negative messages about different companies in order to put fear into the minds of investors.  It never answer questions and writes long and boring bearish messages each time, so Geee here you go ignore once and forever.   Cheers
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