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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Cline Mining Corporation T.CMK

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Post by ravensbranch on Feb 22, 2012 8:44pm

cmk

I have been away for awhile due to biz. It seems nothing has changed. There are many post on here that I do not agree with but, I always try to gleam some  worth while info to guide my investing. There are many of you that I highly respect and truly gain insight in the energy biz especially in North America mining.

It seems that their are many that must be shorting the stock as I have never read so much outright lies, misinformation and truly  BS. If half of the mining info about this project was even close to being true, much less real, this mine would have been dead 100 years ago.

I would like to remind everyone of one simple fact,

this is the last of the large met coal deposits in the United States. PERIOD. CMK is in a gravy spot. The 300 million tons is a very small amount of the coal that is available. CMK could easily double their reserves by leasing. But guess what? They do not have to. Thats right. The coal is under the State of Colorado property and they are not going to allow any new mine openings. On top of that, CMK can head south where this coal runs for many miles into New Mexico.

USGS reports indicate that their was over 1 billion tons left in this area. In fact, they state that their could be more that that.  Their is nothing like this in the States.

In addition, the average coal thickness here, relates to cheap mining if carried out properly. The seams average over 6 ft over the lease area and expand as the mine exits the existing leases. Core drilling east of this mine in another closed mine had coal at over 11 feet. This was carried out by coal bed methane exploration which these results were published at a coal bed methane conference.

 

My point to this is very simple, this is a very valuble mine and lease hold. 

Now, I in no way understand what CMK is doing or has done in the past. I cannot believe thay have over 200 employees at this mine at this time. I do not understand why they did not tackle the Allen seam with its 15-20 million tons faced up and ready to mine. I do not even understand why they have a contract miner. It seems we are supplying the equipment, and he is getting the gravy.

However, this mine, if on the market, would be snapped up in a second by major mining concerns in the USA. All I can say is that I have been contacted by several large mining companies inquiring about this area and ready to lease coal.

Keep the faith. It is not a short term play, but it is dang sure a long term play either with CMK or other players.

Comment by cooper90 on Feb 22, 2012 9:24pm
Nice perspective ravensbranch, the resource is huge and more drilling over time will continue to expand it's worth going forward.   I am certainly not an expert on mining but based on my years of following many exploration plays, companies on the TSX venture etc, it's not easy to bring exploration mines into production. Doesn't matter if it's coal, gold ...more  
Comment by ravensbranch on Feb 23, 2012 12:31pm
Thanks. Not many people realize that their was at least $ 50 million in infrastructure when they bought the property. I have been working on a small met mine in the southeast. Just to open for 500,000 tons per year is coming in at $ 50 million plus and their is no rail involved. Nothing like mining 32 inch coal. Wish I had those big seams of Cline.
Comment by ark88 on Feb 23, 2012 12:36pm
Ravensbranch: What's your take on a buyout price for New Elk? Assuming 2.5-3.0 mty by fall of 2012. I'm thinking in the range of $1-1.5 bil. TIA
Comment by ravensbranch on Feb 23, 2012 1:04pm
keeping it simple lets say 2 million tons per year. Assuming $ 260.00 price per ton sale,  $ 70.00 all in mining cost. This should be the number if operated properly, unit train price for shipping of $ 35.00 per ton, incidentals of $ $ 25.00 per ton, netting $ 130.00 per ton.   I think the shipping number is a little high as Powder River basin is being delivered into the southeast at ...more  
Comment by j0n3s on Feb 23, 2012 1:55pm
A conservative 7 bucks - nice.   :-)   GLTA
Comment by pastafagoli on Feb 23, 2012 2:07pm
Boy, $7 sounds nice - so does the lotto max for this week   Coal prices are now about 200 for premium.  In a previous post someone had 260 - Based on today's price cline will get maybe 160 for the quality penalty of 20%.  Run those numbers out - cline will not hit 2M tonnes until maybe calendar 2013.  I think in an older post I said we'd be lucky to get 300-400K tonnes ...more  
Comment by cooper90 on Feb 23, 2012 2:40pm
So true Pastafagoli.......I hope they prove us wrong but goe's to show you that most have absolutely no faith in management production guidance as they haven't come close after 14 x months of revised. I agree if they can even commit to finalizing the 5 x supersection development in the first half.....it would be a huge highlight....again I am still not sure this is even do-able yet let ...more