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Post by ark88 on Feb 29, 2012 3:13pm

Frustrating

Can't seem to post anything on CMK. SH keeps picking up profanity in my writing! LOL

 

BTW. Cost per ton will be around $75 and sale price will be around $140.

Comment by brundall on Feb 29, 2012 3:31pm
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Comment by cooper90 on Feb 29, 2012 3:31pm
Fact is looking at it from a day trading standpoint you make money on days like this as a short no doubt, you can make a pop when it's positive.....but the reason we are in this particular game and not all in TCK is the opportunity to see 3-4-5 bucks once things get going.......lure of the big POP! 58 million in the bank, 50 million CL = $108 million, 200 million in assets, plant, equipment ...more  
Comment by cooper90 on Feb 29, 2012 3:39pm
This is the math I see if spending (including operating & captial expenditures are 175M) $140 x 1,700,000 tons = $238,000,000  Cash on-hand = $58,000,000 Credit Line = $50,000,000 Total = 238+58+50 = $346,000,000 Less $175,000,000 (346-175) = $171,000,000 gross profit      
Comment by cooper90 on Feb 29, 2012 3:41pm
Sorry I meant $171M = gross profit + cash on-hand  
Comment by brundall on Feb 29, 2012 3:46pm
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Comment by mark117 on Feb 29, 2012 3:58pm
You where right again Wolfy . One BS story after another .
Comment by cooper90 on Feb 29, 2012 4:24pm
Yes Wolfy you were right again.......I am long with a core position and hope you were going to be wrong this time about management credibility but not this time....haha not anytime lately agreed!! That is why I keep an open mind to everyone's comments on this board, I took 10K in shares off the table yesterday as it was a nice one day pop, and 15K shares at $1.88, but held the ...more  
Comment by cooper90 on Feb 29, 2012 4:45pm
What is the 175million...............????? These are the costs.............
Comment by armac21 on Feb 29, 2012 5:20pm
Glad I got stopped out of this pig at 1.86.  Made more on NVS than I ever did on this.   GLTA that are left.
Comment by brundall on Feb 29, 2012 6:30pm
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Comment by miner8740 on Feb 29, 2012 6:40pm
this is run of mine 1,7 million tonnes times recovery say 60 % at wash plant will be 1.2 million tonnes of clean coal at a cash cost of 180 per tonne
Comment by ark88 on Feb 29, 2012 6:42pm
As I stated earlier, financing will be required to carry them to  fall of 2012. its the operating expanses in the next 4-6 months that will cause this, during a period in which revenues will be minimal. The 4-6 weeks delay is the killer here. its the possible financing that is the cause of the sell off today. the truth is always in the share price. From a retail investors point of view, it ...more  
Comment by ark88 on Feb 29, 2012 6:55pm
Personally, I have always carried 150, but the 75 cost is a positive. This considering that they are using a contractor, which is always more expensive. Just go look at GCEs numbers when they were using Ledcor. Well north of 100 and consistently so.
Comment by rumbanter on Feb 29, 2012 8:32pm
it sold off because they are delaying  and reducing production forecast for the second time they will likely need to raise money coal is not as hot as it used to be lots of stories of production being shut in at other companies - yes thermal i know market has had a good run oil stocks are hot again many reason it got pounded i blew mine out and i could be wrong but ........  
Comment by Caerus88 on Feb 29, 2012 9:00pm
rumbanter wrote: it sold off because they are delaying  and reducing production forecast for the second time. My counting might be wrong but I think this reduction in production forecast is the third time not the second:  January 20, 2011: Cline looks forward to working with Mr. Casey on the sale and marketing of metallurgical coal from its New Elk Coal Mine located in Las ...more  
Comment by j0n3s on Feb 29, 2012 9:16pm
Has production been cut ONLY for 2012?  If this is the case then so what???? Unforseen circumstances caused another delay.... so what -  what I care about is do they still plan on producing upwards of 3 million a year when in full production?  I'm patient ! The way I look at it - 2012 we could have produced 2.5 mt but because we are a couple months delayed the ...more  
Comment by mfman on Feb 29, 2012 9:39pm
From what I understand it's a delay, which means there is no fundamental changes to the mine. Plus they just got financing and issued warrants at $2.45. I don't think the big boys are stupid enough to hold 1.25M of junk paper. GLTA
Comment by j0n3s on Feb 29, 2012 10:19pm
mfman: My thoughts too.. so except from a lot of people pee'd off because it didn't happen NOW nothing has changed all that much - if, of course you go long. So what of 2012 is lower as long as once we get into production we can produce and sell 3 mt or close to it... That's what matters to me.
Comment by pastafagoli on Mar 01, 2012 8:34am
Re - so what is production is delayed You are oversimplifying things - the so what is additional permanent dilution (extra shares) to finance these delays.  This directly lowers the share value of the company and your shares.  It would be a different story if cline had enough cash to ride out more delays but by their own admission they do not. Another so what is loss of mgmt credibility  ...more  
Comment by Tinyhopes on Mar 01, 2012 9:09am
brundall   That is all our cash we have access to. Look for another PP in the summer if we do not get a large sales contract before then or money from the BC government for our coal assets there.   Sorry the B.C. Government is BROKE!!!!!! I know I live there. tinyhopes
Comment by brundall on Mar 01, 2012 9:44am
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Comment by Tinyhopes on Mar 01, 2012 10:01am
I am long and under water! I would like to see cline get paid back as well but who knows when that will happen! Not in the next few years until we (B.C.) pay for the 2010 Olympics just found out the trucking of the snow is not paid for or the cleanup of all the new weeds that will grow from all the straw that was used to hold the trucked in SNOW.  And we the shareholders think that Cline has ...more  
Comment by ytkim79 on Mar 01, 2012 10:03am
We will hear from again Cline in less than 2 month time from now. Hopefully they held back some good news. TD cut their TP to $2 from $2.75 this morning with 'Hold'.. YT
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