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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Cline Mining Corporation T.CMK

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Cline Mining Corporation > Great news...618.9Million Tons M & I
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Post by seanj1 on May 24, 2012 11:52pm

Great news...618.9Million Tons M & I

This  was a good news as expected. It is like cuttimg the number of outstanding shares in half !! Once the coal gets back to higher prices in near futues, then Cline will be back in favour  again. I wouldn't mind some last ditch short attack tomorrow so I can add some more... But I don't think it will happen. SP will move above $1 over next few days if not by  tomorrow..

 

SEAM  MEASURED   INDICATED   MEAS. & IND.   INFERRED 
Green 31.9 27.5 59.4 0.1
Loco 14.4 30.0 44.3 26.6
Blue 52.2 38.1 90.3 0.9
BCU 12.8 36.8 49.6 30.0
Red 23.3 10.3 33.6 0.0
 Maxwell  72.1 71.7 143.8 17.4
Apache 50.3 56.8 107.1 15.4
Allen 42.8 47.9 90.7 14.1
Totals 299.8 319.1 618.9 104.5
Comment by GUNSS on May 25, 2012 8:08am
According to the Grande Cache website.... Proven & Probable reserves of 137 million tons + (Indicated / Inferred) resources of 346 million tons = 483 million tons Grande Cache was acquired for $1 billion.  Note: A reserves / resources comparison between Cline and Grande Cache is far from apples to apples, but consider the following.....  1) Cline has zero Proven + Probable ...more  
Comment by shane117 on May 25, 2012 8:58am
If this news barely moves the s/p then nothing will besides confirmed contracts and sales. And that only.
Comment by shane117 on May 25, 2012 8:58am
If this news barely moves the s/p then nothing will besides confirmed contracts and sales. And that only.
Comment by GUNSS on May 25, 2012 9:05am
Agreed, shane117, if this doesn't move the share price up, then only sales, revenues and contracts will.
Comment by mr1derful on May 25, 2012 9:12am
GUNNSS.Why would any major producer pay up for CMK when they have not been able to consistently produce therefore you have no idea what their cost structure is like? Nor do we even know what kind of pricing CMK would receive in the market place for their coal.Maybe 70% of the benchmark HCC price. If CMK had reserves that were HCC then I coud see interest. The bottom line is that CMK ...more  
Comment by shane117 on May 25, 2012 9:15am
15 minutes before open and we are only up .05cts.
Comment by shane117 on May 25, 2012 9:21am
.03cts now!
Comment by GUNSS on May 25, 2012 9:37am
You're right, WLT is developing its own brownfield coking coal reserves, so they will not buy Cline. I should forefit my CFA.   You fall into the same trap I keep warning against.  Cline has not produced or sold tons, therefore the likes of a Peabody could not produce or sell tons.  First of all, production is no longer the issue, only the sales contracts.  How much ...more  
Comment by mr1derful on May 25, 2012 9:58am
At $300/tonne for HCC any coal producer can be profitable...even CMK. Isn't that what Cline's management was banking on? The issue I have with CMK is on the cost side of their production. They haven't produced anything significant to date so how do you know what their costs per ton are? Costs are a very important variable when determing the value for an entity so until we actually see ...more  
Comment by GUNSS on May 25, 2012 10:08am
Good, so we agree that at $300 coking coal any company can be profitable.  But, how many companies can turn a switch and ramp up AN INCREMENTAL 3 million tons within a year or so, (assuming the likes of a Peabody are in charge).  That optionality is valuable.  Peabody has zero tons of coking coal production in the U.S.  Arch, Clould Peak and Alpha would benefit from buying ...more  
Comment by GUNSS on May 25, 2012 10:12am
Oh, and you said that WLT will be bought out before Cline?  I don't necessarily disagree.  But, WLT's EV is $ 6 billion, and Cline's is $250 million.  Is WLT worth 24x that of Cline even though Cline has 619 million tons of M&I resources? 
Comment by miner666 on May 25, 2012 10:16am
Mr. Egoful, Although I agree this is all speculative at this juncture, that is what investors do, speculate.  Regarding the prospects of a WLT takeover, the market has been calling for this transaction for over a year, and while I agree it is a more likely candidate for an acquisition, an offer at or slightly above the current market price will be deemed as opportunistic at this point in the ...more  
Comment by mr1derful on May 25, 2012 10:25am
WLT's Alabama assets produce premium hard coking coal that gets priced at benchmark prices and their costs in the US are targetted to be at $100/ton. Their margins are obviously a hell of a lot higher than Cline could ever expect. Not all reserves are created equal.