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CANEXUS CORP 6.5 PCT DEBS > You can cry over spilt milk if you want but....
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Post by hawk35 on Feb 08, 2014 1:52pm

You can cry over spilt milk if you want but....

Allowing emotions over missteps and setbacks may end up causing you to lose out. Notice I said 'may' (not pumping here). I don't like management not disclosing the downside sooner but i do still think a Q1 upside surprise could be coming since the trains are running and CUS has not included any of this revenue in their projections being in my opinion overly conservative. The article I pasted below tends to support his. Here is how I see the math. First train in December carried 60,000 barrels. (see yellow areas below) MEG sent six trains in January. So that is 6 times 60,000 or 360,000 barrels in January. (almost 12,000 barrels a day) Add this revenue to uptrend in their chemical business (as reported by TDW last week) and cash flow increase could beat consensus for Q1. The other thing you should take note of is why MEG CEO is so enthusiatic about oil by rail. (see blue highlights below) You might also want to read MEG's Q4 year end release and take note of the higher price oil by rail achieved for them in Dec and Jan.

Do your DD.

CALGARY - Unit trains full of MEG Energy Corp's crude have begun departing from a new rail loading facility northeast of Edmonton, as the oilsands producer looks for ways around jammed pipelines to the best-paying markets.

Late last year, MEG hooked up crude from its oilsands operations in northeastern Alberta to an oil-by-rail terminal operated by Canexus Corp. (TSX:CUS.TO - News), making it the first direct connection of its kind in Canada.

The first unit train — 60,000 barrels of crude across some 100 linked railcars — was loaded in December. Six more followed in January.

How much crude MEG moves by rail in future months will depend on where the best-paying markets are, CEO Bill McCaffrey told a conference call with analysts Thursday.

"Every month, we have discussions with refiners — they want to buy crude, we want to sell crude," he said

Once the company determines where it can get the best price, "that's where we'll point those trains."

MEG declined to disclose how much crude is moving to the attractive U.S. Gulf Coast market.

"We have the ability to send all of it to the Gulf Coast if we want or we can send it in other directions. What we chase is just the best deal."

Companies have been increasingly turning to rail ship their crude, with major pipeline expansions held up by regulatory delays and environmental opposition.

Oilsands giant Suncor Energy Inc. (TSX:SU.TO - News) said earlier this week its Montreal refinery is receiving about 30,000 barrels of oil per day by rail. Imperial Oil Ltd. (TSX:IMO.TO - News) and crude shipper Kinder Morgan are building a crude-by-rail oil terminal in Edmonton that would start up next year and have an initial capacity of 100,000 barrels per day.

MEG also recently completed its 900,000-barrel Stonefell storage terminal near Edmonton. When oil markets lag, the terminal gives MEG the option of saving its crude to be sold when prices are better. During the fourth quarter, when pipelines were unable to ship the volumes their customers were requesting, the Stonefell terminal came in handy.

"If this had happened in the past, we would have had to curtail production or sell these barrels at a lower price," said Don Moe, vice-president of supply and marketing.

"With the terminal operation, MEG had the ability to avoid distressed sales and begin to redirect these volumes to higher-priced markets at a later date."

MEG has also been shipping crude along U.S. waterways using barges.

The progress on what MEG calls its "hub and spoke" market access strategy comes at a time of big production growth for the company.

MEG, which has a target of producing 80,000 barrels per day by 2015, said output averaged a record 42,251 barrels per day for the fourth quarter, compared with 32,292 in the same period a year earlier.

In January, with the ramp-up of a new project, production averaged around 55,000 barrels per day.

The company also announced a 13 per cent increase in proved reserves to 1.4 billion barrels and a 10 per cent increase in proved plus probable reserves to 2.9 billion barrels.

Shares in MEG popped nearly four per cent in afternoon trading on the Toronto Stock Exchange to $31.16.

Also Thursday, MEG's posted a fourth-quarter loss of $148.2 million or 67 cents per share, compared with a loss of $18.7 million or nine cents per share a year earlier.

The loss came as the company took a foreign exchange hit on the conversion of its U.S.-dollar denominated debt, due to the strengthening of the U.S. dollar against the loonie.

Revenue totalled $350.3 million, up from $297.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2012.

Comment by Kherson on Feb 09, 2014 8:46am
Hawk35, you and I both know the importance of management. You and I have both expressed the same views on these guys, except mine is a tad more harsh. My concern is that the company has lied concerning the extra financing required to complete BLUNDERHEIM. In the January 14th NR, the company clearly states that the funding shortfall will be covered by existing credit facilities. On January ...more  
Comment by itsalie on Feb 10, 2014 3:20pm
where are you hearing rumors of re-statement of the 3rd quarter financials?? That is why I feel that the rumour of a possible re-statement of the 3rd quarter financials can not be taken lightly... Read more at https://www.stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.cus/canexus-corporation#MyyzcZSzi3CafOzD.99 That is why I feel that the rumour of a possible re-statement of the 3rd quarter financials ...more  
Comment by Kherson on Feb 11, 2014 12:26pm
Right here on SH... Kherson
Comment by itsalie on Feb 12, 2014 9:57am
complete fabrication.. there is no rumour.. just some idiot trying to drive the price down..
Comment by Kherson on Feb 12, 2014 10:44am
You may be right itsalie, but it would seem to me that the Market is believing the "idiot" over Canexus's management... Kherson
Comment by itsalie on Feb 12, 2014 11:04am
The market does not know the idiot posted it.. and the idiot would not be privvy to such news..
Comment by Kherson on Feb 12, 2014 11:12am
Itsalie, I have to disagree with you on both points. As I have said, I am waiting for the Year End audited financials before I make a move. If the year end financials prove the 3rd Quarter financials are clean, then I will buy more CUS. If the year end proves that the 3rd Quarter financials need to be re-stated, then I will be part of the lawsuits... Kherson
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