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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Concordia Healthcare Corp. T.CXR.R

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Concordia Healthcare Corp. > The bottom price
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Post by Crazyluffy on Jun 09, 2016 9:17am

The bottom price

Everyone was guessing the buyout price, I am more interesting in bottom price. Anyone has any thought?
Comment by BENNIEPENNY on Jun 09, 2016 9:49am
$5 bucks....
Comment by cavinsin on Jun 09, 2016 9:51am
ha..ha... will elaborate later have to run.. stay there longs
Comment by Roller007 on Jun 09, 2016 11:05am
Bennipenny: I totally agree. $5 is the upper end.  Now play some options showing that bet and send me a proof that you did so to see if you stand behind your very intelligent price target and I will give you a million dollars.  You obviously have the brain power of a lab rat so why don't you go back to humping your mother or sister.  
Comment by BENNIEPENNY on Jun 09, 2016 11:17am
haha, relax man, your gonna have a heart attack. obv your ugly wife left you and your daugther is a pig...but life may get better for you. this might rebound, haha..
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Jun 09, 2016 11:26am
Intelligence at his best again... very low in the payroll
Comment by Roller007 on Jun 09, 2016 12:28pm
Bennipenny: I would love to continue this battle of wits but obviously you came unarmed. 
Comment by pineapple1 on Jun 09, 2016 1:33pm
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Comment by BENNIEPENNY on Jun 09, 2016 1:54pm
I was kidding about $5. I really dont think we see this below $30-on-going. I'm a strong buyer
Comment by sunshine7 on Jun 09, 2016 1:59pm
And remind me what the explanation for Blackstone walk away was?
Comment by fdfd12 on Jun 09, 2016 2:05pm
Better yet when did Apollo walk away???
Comment by regardless on Jun 09, 2016 2:22pm
FDFD12..."Better yet when did Apollo walk away???"...PROVE IT MORON?  
Comment by sunshine7 on Jun 09, 2016 2:29pm
regardless, your question is for pineapple not fd
Comment by fdfd12 on Jun 09, 2016 2:33pm
Sunny thank you for standing up for me. I was trying to understand what regardless was getting to. I think the stock price has everyone uptight.
Comment by regardless on Jun 09, 2016 2:33pm
if apollo or whomever has decided to walk we would be at 15$ by now...fdfd12...sorry about the comment...pineapple...you have no merit or proof with a statement like that?....i thought not
Comment by ayowood on Jun 09, 2016 2:48pm
If Apollo wasn't interested then why place a bid? Makes no sense to me....
Comment by fdfd12 on Jun 09, 2016 2:56pm
Honestly, we really don't know Apollo placed any bid or the bid. We are just reading rumors on the internet. There is no confirmation that there is a bid.
Comment by pineapple1 on Jun 09, 2016 4:02pm
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Comment by Roller007 on Jun 09, 2016 4:14pm
Pineapple;  yes will divest by selling Donatel profolio to you for a dollar. It might cure your condition of verbal  Diarrhea.   Do you have anything intelligent to add on here? I would welcome anything negative but please get a few of your brain cells to work together to start making some sense. 
Comment by donaldspice on Jun 09, 2016 4:24pm
A company that just bought 4 new products doesn't seem to be anywhere close to having to divest anything. This is short rhetoric that has been imagined. The company would not continue to but products if they felt they were anywhere close to meeting their debt obligations
Comment by curiousbuild on Jun 09, 2016 4:52pm
I will happily take 3.5 shares of Takeda. I don't think it's APO in talks at all.. Guessing games just getting exhausting.
Comment by terminator007 on Jun 09, 2016 4:57pm
CB: you seem to be obsessed with Takeda. what's wrong with you? Where did you get that Takeda is interested at all? Will ppl believe you or BNN/WSJ? Please stop this non-sense.
Comment by curiousbuild on Jun 09, 2016 5:02pm
If they were interested in Valeant why not Concordia? Better company, outlook and clean accounting books.. why not? Yours truly Andrew McCreath seems to believe as well. And I never believe in WSJ but I liked Amber's piece recently. Not making buy or sell decisions on any report but only on Co releases.. CB
Comment by terminator007 on Jun 09, 2016 5:05pm
Anyways, GL with your imagination.
Comment by Lattice on Jun 09, 2016 6:47pm
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Comment by CNInvesting on Jun 09, 2016 7:01pm
Lattice, just want your take on why there are so many funds buying CXR if it's so plain obvious that this company will implode on itself ? I respect your opinion but I'm quite curious as to why you and a select few seem to be the only ones seeing this calamity. 
Comment by Lattice on Jun 09, 2016 7:30pm
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Comment by CNInvesting on Jun 09, 2016 7:36pm
Well I don't know how many could be short this stock as the reports don't state who is short ( sadly  ). Could be one institution as far as I know. I know the short interest increased after Q1, I'm really more curious knowing what it will be for the first half of June.
Comment by wallop13 on Jun 09, 2016 7:40pm
I don't understand what you are saying. Do you mean to say they amortize the expense of a drug acquisition over.... say 10 years? What is wrong with that? Doesn't the law prevent them from writing down the whole expense in year 1???
Comment by Lattice on Jun 09, 2016 8:14pm
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Comment by wallop13 on Jun 09, 2016 8:46pm
Lattice, that seems like standard practice. The better way to value the assets is by using the cash flow from operations. Forget about what they tell you the assets are worth. The value is in the cash those assets produce, not what was originally paid to acquire that cash flow.
Comment by CookieMonster on Jun 09, 2016 9:04pm
You must like donuts!
Comment by Lattice on Jun 09, 2016 9:12pm
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Comment by CookieMonster on Jun 09, 2016 9:23pm
Lattice is DonutShorts on Twitter.  Also retweets Cahodes stuff.  Part of a pack.
Comment by terminator007 on Jun 09, 2016 9:32pm
You don't mean chicken farmer's chicken? do you?
Comment by Annayya on Jun 09, 2016 9:36pm
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Comment by terminator007 on Jun 09, 2016 9:42pm
And imo some of them are paid as well, as they seem to spend a huge amount of time writing bogus fear-mongering short thesis. BO will solve this issue for us and for them as well.
Comment by WillyWally on Jun 09, 2016 10:18pm
You know how I see people like you? Like some infantry guy who can't understand why a General would want to plan, strategize, discuss tactics instead of simply running forward gun blazing without looking behind. It's unbelievable that as soon as we have a nuanced view on our approach to trading or investing we're seen like shorts in disguise.  Think about it. No investment is 100 ...more  
Comment by Annayya on Jun 09, 2016 11:06pm
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Comment by WillyWally on Jun 09, 2016 11:19pm
Yeah as for myself I had my lesson with Yamana Gold (YRI) last year. I bought 10,000 shares early last year for around $5, and I sold at around $4.75 because I needed the cash. I then saw the stock go under $2, and recover to around $6.75 today. It's incredible how a bashed stock can recover quickly once things turn around. Also, gold is still under $1,300 so it's not as if suddenly Yamana ...more  
Comment by Roller007 on Jun 09, 2016 10:05pm
Cookiemonster:  lattice is cohedes when he dresses in women panties. So according to cohedes dare that he will show up to dinner with MT in women's clothes, he will actually show up as lattice.  
Comment by wallop13 on Jun 09, 2016 10:18pm
Fair enough. Non enduring, yes. But a drug is not exactly a shale oil well either. There should be enough cash flow to pay the debt down and grow the company. They claim to be rolling out 50 new drugs over the next little while so they should be able to grow while putting most free cash towards debt, because that does need to be lowered.
Comment by AvInvestor on Jun 09, 2016 7:41pm
Lattice... The point of CXR's growth is from future cash flow. You'll see how much of that debt will be covered in years to come from their cash cow products. Your theoretical rhetoric on EBITDA scenarios are very imaginative at best. Please stop trolling this forum has we clearly see what side of the coin you are on. folks just ignore him.,., he is simply trying to persuade you to get ...more  
Comment by Pj1958 on Jun 10, 2016 2:04am
AVINVESTOR......LETTUCE is not of the male species...she is bleding from her eyes... she is bleeding from her you know what.
Comment by fdfd12 on Jun 09, 2016 2:51pm
No problem. This TO talk has us all riled up.
Comment by wallop13 on Jun 09, 2016 3:00pm
We really know very little about who walked in, let alone who walked out. If a buyout happens, it happens, it's really not needed. CRX international is expected to grow 15% ish this year alone. If this company can deliver what they forecast (nothing to prove otherwise), then it's an awesome buy! I personally like that they keep growing too, no point in shuttering the doors in hopes of an ...more  
Comment by ayowood on Jun 09, 2016 3:11pm
Very good points. I guess the only place to confirm the bid was Zacks and who knows where they got there information from. I just wanna hear confirmation of a deal or no deal. Getting tired of this guessing game....
Comment by Lattice on Jun 09, 2016 2:29pm
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Comment by Marcel7 on Jun 10, 2016 8:01am
Hello Lattice. I think you mean in traditional math (negative) times (negative) equals (positive). Otherwise Apollo's math appears to be spot on! Marcel
Comment by Lattice on Jun 10, 2016 9:06am
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Comment by YourMindIz on Jun 10, 2016 9:22am
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Comment by Marcel7 on Jun 10, 2016 11:32am
That video is hilarious! Thanks for sharing Lattice. Marcel
Comment by pineapple1 on Jun 09, 2016 10:23pm
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Comment by Roller007 on Jun 09, 2016 10:27pm
Sunshine:  blackstone did not walk away, they were told not to bother with their low ball offer.  One day this fact will surface.  I'm guessing it will be after the buyout announcement. And strongly believe that blackstone and friends are behind the huge short interest in Cxr
Comment by sunshine7 on Jun 09, 2016 10:43pm
Pineapple, there was no citation that Blackstone got cold feet. So 10M shares shorted on 'potential' brexit and rollback of drug pricing? I don't think the odds of either is higher than 50%. So why the big bet? Do you think it has something to do with their ability to move the price at will due to low public float? Short n distort campaign.
Comment by investatbest on Jun 09, 2016 9:51am
Simply put, the bottom price is 0.  Depending on your investment style, your bottom might be a lot higher.  Some people have a bottom at -5% and then they lose the stock and never look at it again.  If you invest like Buffett, you never sell a stock and hope that you pick more winners than losers (or you hold on to the losers until the come around and become winners). At this point ...more  
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