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Concordia Healthcare Corp. > Primer for shorting for retail traders
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Post by PROtrading on Sep 02, 2016 12:59pm

Primer for shorting for retail traders

Shorting isn't investing, it's trading.  Surprisingly, I received a questions from a fellow retail on why I'm shorting CXR from and how to do it.  Why I'm doing it is out in the public here, I'm not a typical SH trader that are "2bit", I post my trades and I'm always honest.  That why the crooks come after me all the time with their clown nerf guns.

First DON'T SHORT!  If you are a retail investor, DO NOT SHORT unless you are super proficient on the trade. I'm not a regular retail because I worked for the street and I have a total mistrust of the markets and the scum that makes it up. And I trade all day except certain times of the year. Many of the the street traders here are actually worst bad "house of cards" CEOs! ;-)  LOL  That's why I love the real pros that disclose their positions.  Those guys deserve a freaking metal and you know they are great people and traders.

Retail trading platforms SUCK and are not designed for shorting. Plus, you're playing with real market pros. BIG sharks.  Some of these shorters here are REAL PROs.  They aren't little retail.  They *are* the street. I can bet you that 99% of the shorters here are professional career traders, not small retail self investors trying to swim in a sea of sharks.

You can have unlimited loses if you don't watch the trades (but unless you trade all day, you can't!).  So best to find some good investments that you can buy, hold and forget. Checking it every so often.

Now, if you really want to short, call your brokerages to walk you through, you likely won't be able to figure it out yourself because the platforms suck and don't be surprised the investment rep on the other hand doesn't really know what they are doing. Ask them how many retail investor short and you'll see why.

There are some really odd rules that are setup by the street for the street. The 20% percent limit between the stop loss and limit price is one of them for example. 

Good luck and again, unless you daytrade, do NOT short.  Most pro shorters cover by the end of day and work with huge amounts and penny differentials.
Comment by HedgeFunder on Sep 02, 2016 1:13pm
Great advice for those on the losing side of the market. I, too, have a conviction that vast majority of commentators on these boards are amateurs, and sadly, it appears they lost a lot of money. Market is neither efficient, nor smart. Going long on heavy-debt-negative-p/e-failing-acid-test-ratio companies like Concordia Healthcare is akin committing suicide. But new traders still think they can ...more  
Comment by rad10 on Sep 02, 2016 1:26pm
I am retail and I only short as a paired trade or a convertible hedge.  There aren't many intelligent scenarios when retail should get involved with shorting, but going long on a convertible debenture and shorting the stock to pick up the interest with zero capital outlay is a good feeling. Good luck to you pro-trader.  Lots of recoil in the spring that is concordia
Comment by PROtrading on Sep 02, 2016 2:07pm
OMG, I bet that 99% of retail investors have no idea what you are talking about here.  So tell me what retail platform you use and how do you buy the debs?  Let's put those first three words to the test here... ;-)  Because you really don't sound retail ... Not that I'm really interested because all it takes is a few street rating downgrades or large funds to sell to ...more  
Comment by rad10 on Sep 02, 2016 4:49pm
Seriously pro trader - scotia itrade.  I put limit orders on the debs - leave a hook in the water and if it fills thats great, I then cover with a short equity position as soon as a bond order fills. I am a full time radiologist.  I do my own investing with variable results - some great, others like concordia not so great.   Best convertible hedge was yellow media, IBI group has ...more  
Comment by PROtrading on Sep 02, 2016 5:07pm
Thanks rad10!  Nice to see other retails that aren't getting crushed by the street pros that rule here and on the markets!
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