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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Concordia Healthcare Corp. T.CXR.R

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Concordia Healthcare Corp. > What I do not understand ...
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Post by meetoo1600 on Dec 20, 2016 4:36pm

What I do not understand ...

Here is what I do not understand about the egg farmer and all of the other short sellers that predict Concordia's demise.  We get your thesis.  We even acknowledge that it may be correct.  Concordia may end up bankrupt.  What I do understand is why, given that everyone knows it, having heard it from you or figured it out for themselves, you have to keep repeating and repeating it over and over again, with incessant sarcastic tweets and jokes.  If this not somehow in support of your own selfish aims, what are you hoping to gain at this point.  The stock is already more than 95% down from its former peak.  Are we supposed to really believe, at this point, that you are trying to promote some sort of public good?  Sure, maybe at one time you were.  But now?  I understand that the egg farmer has a hard on for MT, and justifiably so.  The law suit is stupid, and the Plaintiff was a horrible CEO.  There is alot for which he should be called to answer.  But what is to be gained at this point from excessive ranting about the company?  If it is going to go bankrupt, why not just let it, and take your short-selling profits in due course?  What does non-stop tweeting and posting about it do.  Those who are with the stock now, know your message.  Rightly or wrongly, they have elected not to heed it.  Why not shut up and let things play out as they may?

The same applies to the short thesis on Canadian housing.  IF HCG and EQB are going to go bankrupt as a result of a houseing crash, why not just let it happen?  What is to be gained by repeating it over and over again, with jokes and sarcasm throughout?  What is making fun of their CEOs supposed to accomplish?  The compulsion to do so, if it is not somehow perceived to be helping realize profit from a short position, is, to me at least, suggestive of some sort of personality disorder. A commentator actually referred to that on BNN, although I think the precise words that he used were "socially awkward".
Comment by Juice004 on Dec 20, 2016 6:03pm
I think I can help answer some of that, Some of these shorts were longs who lost money on Concordia and then went short and are passionate now to see the company file for Chapter 11 so they will bash it at every opportunity. Some of the other shorts work for hedge funds and are paid to bash no different then paid pumpers where all appear now to have left the building. With that you also have ...more  
Comment by rad10 on Dec 21, 2016 9:42am
I think Juice has nailed this - concordia was a great short at 40 bucks. Its not a great short at this juncture.  I think we will see it tread water and make the final Cinven payment in the new year - what happens with the CMA, and the extent of their liability (relative to the previous owners) is anyones guess.  GLTA
Comment by DanKwong1958 on Dec 21, 2016 9:53am
I think its quite funny when longs/bagholders start giving advice on what makes this a good price to short.   If a stock is terminal, it doesn't matter if its three bucks or its forty bucks. It still goes down 100%.  Merry Christmas to all.  
Comment by DeathPool on Dec 21, 2016 10:00am
Rad, as a first lien noteholder, are you with the Jones Day ad hoc group or the White & Case crossholding group?   Time to come clean.
Comment by rad10 on Dec 21, 2016 10:09am
Jones Day is an unsecured holders group I believe.
Comment by DeathPool on Dec 21, 2016 10:19am
rad10 wrote: Jones Day is an unsecured holders group I believe. Nope, Akin Gump was engaged by the unsecured holders. And this was made public so I am able to disclose. And to be clear, when I said time to come clean I was not directing that at you, I was directing that statement to the "Corporation" . Here's a round up of the latest developments at Debtwire.  ...more  
Comment by DeathPool on Dec 21, 2016 10:26am
For anyone who is interested, two previous news releases can be viewed on @Chapter11Cases Twitter feed. Further updates to this news article are not available to the public and are only available by subscription to Debtwire. I don't know if Research Reorg has made information available to its subscribers. DeathPool wrote: rad10 wrote: Jones Day is an unsecured holders group I ...more  
Comment by Investin on Dec 21, 2016 10:52am
Old news, and it doent means Bankruptcy, If you dont have recent firm news, go back to sleep.
Comment by DeathPool on Dec 21, 2016 11:27am
investin, As I have stated, there is an update to the news. However, due to disclosure rules that come with the subscription I can not post articles that are not made public. I have posted what has been made public from the past which I think substantiates the rumours that were previously called lies on this bullboard by pumpers. My intention is only to share news that I am able to, what ...more  
Comment by TraderBen on Dec 21, 2016 11:42am
Good post BTW. I had not seen the article saying bondholders had lawyered up... DeathPool wrote: investin, As I have stated, there is an update to the news. However, due to disclosure rules that come with the subscription I can not post articles that are not made public. I have posted what has been made public from the past which I think substantiates the rumours that were ...more  
Comment by Investin on Dec 21, 2016 12:55pm
Great Post Death pool, but nothing on twitter about the updates you mentioned. Also how come you are dicussing what institution needs so they can buy, if you were certain before the stock is going to zero, so institutions buy? you are right it's a gamble, but who you think the odds and payouts are in favor ? shorts ?
Comment by DeathPool on Dec 21, 2016 1:14pm
Investin,  What has been released publically is indeed available on Randall G. Reese @Chapter11Cases Twitter Account.  You may have to be a follower or be followed to see all tweets by this twitter handle but the public articles are indeed linked there. The non-public articles, as I have said, are only available by subscription.  To reiterate a third time, that means that Investin ...more  
Comment by Investin on Dec 21, 2016 1:48pm
Yes deathpool, i can see it here https://twitter.com/Chapter11Cases and yes your analysis shouldnt be for free, do you take VISA.? Seriously man, you are not saying any thing valid or valuable so yes go to sleep untill then.
Comment by Investin on Dec 21, 2016 2:05pm
HERE YOU GO DEATHPOOL I POST IT BUT FOR YOUIts not like it was one of CXRX's "Shining Jewels," but Orapred 15mg now makes the Discontined Drug Product List AlderLaneeggsDonutShortspic.twitter.com/qLxnD9ihl0
Comment by DeathPool on Dec 21, 2016 2:08pm
Sheesh, it sounds like you are the one that needs a nap, just saying...
Comment by GenericAdvocate on Dec 20, 2016 6:26pm
meetoo: That is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever read on here. You need to get some help and have a serious talk with yourself if you are stalking a chicken farmer's account and are bothered by it. Maybe he reminds you that you are a Bagholder? Man up (or woman up) and own the names you bought. Bag Holder ‏@BagholderQuotes "Kicking ...more  
Comment by Investin on Dec 20, 2016 6:54pm
You are right Meeto, they keep posting over and over cause the chicken farmer took it personal and the shorts community took his side with some journalists as well, even the wifes are involved, that iss why they keep talking more than women do,  what the mental farmer dosent know is that even if CXR go bankrupt and MT goes to jail, he still have to pay MT 4 million for the law suit, basically ...more  
Comment by SpankedOnPaper on Dec 20, 2016 6:59pm
Hey meetoo,  Not everyone visits the board every day, there are new developments (like the amended law suit Donnatal firing fiasco, photorin termination, taken off the the nasdaq bio index, etc etc.  so  I for one appreciate that shorts and longs keep posting credible news.  I want to know if there is insider buying (I doubt there is much they can sell that hasn't been sold ...more  
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