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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Gunnison Copper Corp T.GCU

Alternate Symbol(s):  GCUMF

Gunnison Copper Corp., formerly Excelsior Mining Corp., is a copper development company. The Company operates in Cochise County, Arizona, and is focused on delivering pure copper cathode into the United States domestic supply chain. The Company’s projects include Gunnison Copper Project, the Johnson Camp Mine, and a portfolio of exploration projects, including the Peabody Sill and the Strong... see more

TSX:GCU - Post Discussion

Gunnison Copper Corp > MIN + NCU
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Post by Notgnu on Dec 27, 2020 2:18am

MIN + NCU

I think both these companies NCU and MIN have compelling arguements for large near term share price appreciation.

I was alerted to MIN by rockhound3 (thanks rock)

I have started my more in depth DD here and appreciate the quality posts. Future profit at NCU now works out to about 60% more than what it would have been at their July financing ($0.14)

The following is a summary of info and opinion on NCU. I intend to sell some of my reit holdings and add yet more copper exposure.

MIN seems like a great deal at current $1.06.

Cheers and happy holidays
Notgnu

Some reasons I own NCU shares:
  • Trading at 0.36 X book value... crazy IMO
  • No insider selling for 10 yrs 
  • Fallout from Covid shut down depressed the price dramatically
  • Safe & friendly jurisdiction
  • First new in 10 yrs USA copper producer
  • Copper demand guy is POTUS
  • Copper already running up ahead of expectations
  • Big leverage to copper price gain
  • New mill passed to run at design of 5000 tpd 
  • Full copper production next 8 to 12 weeks
  • Hoisting and ventilation shafts almost completed 
  • Hedged only about 25% over next 12 months
  • Vaccine news removes much Covid uncertainty
  • Copper is 59% higher marginal profit than at last financing (all in cost $1.86)
  • Tax loss selling soon over (only 1 sale day left)
  • Consolidation may happen (I am in favour: margin can be had + institutions can buy)
  • Debt financing done to access high grade stopes
  • Banks willing to lend at reasonable rates (interbank rate + 4.9%)
  • Highly experienced CEO on board... granted 3,500,000 rights, which align him with shareholders. 
 
 
Interpretation of 2020 share price collapse:
 
Covid hit and the mine was shut down. It was bad timing in terms of funds to get production up and running. Cash was not there and it looked like another dilution was to happen
 
Selling came in with very little buying support. Then the situation changed for the better yet investors are still scared (and some are scarred.)

Two methods to asses share price to value:
FIRST:

 
  • Take NCU's $1.89 cost per pound from the last presentation. 
  • Subtract cost from price of copper then = $2.95 - $1.89 = $1.06 profit back then.
  • Compare to now:  $3.54 copper - $1.89 cost  =  $1.65 profit now
  • Increase in profit since financing ($0.14) is   64%   ($1.06 divided by $1.65)

SECOND:
  • Take NCU Corporate Presentation numbers = $80,000,000 annual cash-flow, divide by $1.31 ($3.20 minus $1.89 cost) = 61 million pounds of copper per year.
  • Sub in your own numbers and then post your share valuation 
  • Take copper price now (minus $3.20 )=  $________X  61 million pounds = addition to the yearly cash flow above what Pala had to base his purchases on (Example $0.40 X 61 million = $24.4 million)
  • Multiply the $24.4 million X your cashflow muliple number. (Example $24.4m X 10 = $244m)
  • Take the $244m and divide by shares out of 1.5b (Example $244m / 1.5b = $0.16)
  • In this example add the $0.16 to whatever you think the company share price was worth before (Example Pala's $0.55 + $0.16 = $0.71 ....or.... some lower number like $0.27 (half of Pala)  $0.27 + $0.16 = $0.43
  • In any case $0.12 per share comes out a steal (yes, IMO) compared to $0.71 or $0.43.
  • Using a 10 X cash-flow the share price is even below the additional $0.16 added by the copper price increase giving NCU a negative <$.04> price by this measure!
 
Insider average costs:
 
Pala / Iorich    60% owner            > $0.55 
NCU director Nutter                     > $0.32
NCU director Albanese                > $ 0.41 
NCU director Brown                    > $0.31
NCU chairman Gill                       > $0.21
NCU senior VP Joseph                > $.32
NCU director Cochrane                > $0.67
 
1 year cashflow equals current market cap of NCU
 
https://nevadacopper.com/site/assets/files/4190/ncu_october_2020_final.pdf
 
WARNING: DYODD.

I am not a registered financial advisor

I am a shareholder posting on a forum
Comment by dollpartz on Dec 27, 2020 3:38pm
Ya, I see you on NCU .. whatever I throw there I allow for zero, just saying .. I wish they'd do their reverse split NCU .. NOW .. as to MIN .. it's always been, one step forward, one step back mining as to price .. but I got infinite patience ..
Comment by Notgnu on Dec 27, 2020 4:30pm
I agree dollpartz. I do allow for $0.00 dollars but I give that a slim chance unless copper collapses. I also allow for a low price take private buyout sceme but believe it would be something it would have to happen at a much higher rather than lower price compared to today. I am hoping (for my personal reasons) that MIN is a month or two slower to appreciate than NCU. If so I will definately ...more  
Comment by dollpartz on Dec 31, 2020 2:05pm
Ya Pala .. my experience with Pala is this: In early 2009 I bought Neomaterials .. it was about a buck. They had a lot of cash, and even after the crash they were not losing money.  It was unique in that the company did not mine rare earths, it processed them. Not long after Pala made an offer to buy it out .. I think at 1.75. Ya that's seared in my memory. Price at the time might have ...more  
Comment by dollpartz on Dec 31, 2020 3:11pm
Thinking back price might have been 1.50 .. ya .. and they offered 1.75 .. rejected .. shareholders can always reject the offer .. and it happened that time
Comment by comet52 on Dec 31, 2020 5:19pm
Only 1.5 billion shares out, eh?   I don't care how hard you pump it I don't invest in blown up share structures like that.  
Comment by dollpartz on Dec 31, 2020 5:30pm
Well that's the issue .. 10 to 1 reverse split, and it's 150 million shares dawg
Comment by comet52 on Jan 02, 2021 1:31pm
Reverse splits are not good for investors.  If a junior has 1+ billion shares it's been mismanaged, it's just a long term p&d imho.  ymmv.  I'm out of acronyms ;^)
Comment by dollpartz on Jan 03, 2021 12:12am
Yes reverse splits can be horrendous ...I won't talk about it anymore .. but I didn't introduce it, I replied to someone who mentioned it.
Comment by dollpartz on Jan 03, 2021 12:22am
I don't mean to throw someone else under the bus .. oh nevermind!!
Comment by dollpartz on Jan 03, 2021 7:17pm
Regarding reverse splits, seemed to work for Torex .. (only trade I made over the phone) ... I don't know of any other tho, usually there follows a dip ..
Comment by dollpartz on Dec 31, 2020 6:50pm
How am I pumping it when I say "I allow for zero"?! You recognize honest people when you see them?! Guess not.
Comment by comet52 on Jan 02, 2021 1:32pm
Full page post on the wrong bboard is pumping, but you sell your honesty as hard as you sell that stock, you gotta chance in this game kid!
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