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BETAPRO SP500 VIX ST FTRS 2X DLY BULL > BetaPro S&P 500 VIX Short-Term Futures™ Bull+ ETF
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Post by smartfinish on Dec 08, 2015 10:20am

BetaPro S&P 500 VIX Short-Term Futures™ Bull+ ETF

why is it not twice the index ?
when i'm in and vix up 1 to 1
when vix down 2 to 1

very disapointing and unfair !

can anybody explain why ?

Bull+ ETF ? only down not up

major scam
Comment by relativenewby1 on Dec 08, 2015 12:01pm
Not a scam - best to read the prospectus and understand exactly what you're investing in or best not bother. https://www.horizonsetfs.com/horizons/media/pdfs/prospectus/Volatility_Prospectus.pdf
Comment by borrowedlife on Dec 08, 2015 2:51pm
Relative /donrasta, how u guys doing, I've been spot on with my trades today over $2k profits and still going st it, GLTU guys
Comment by relativenewby1 on Dec 08, 2015 3:55pm
Borrowed - great job as nice to hear of the sucesses! No action in HVU today as didn't hit my $30 buy. Had a few hundred of LABU that got triggered this morning at $18.50 and already out for the day with my norrmal 8% preset sell as like some of the triple ETF to dabble with as well. Not as big a fan of the US since TD wacks you with the exchange premium but any gain is a good one. Good ...more  
Comment by relativenewby1 on Dec 09, 2015 12:06pm
Morning Borrowed/donrasta Hope you guys are having another great day. Hit my buy of $30 this morning and out now at $33 for 10% so sitting on the sidelines for the rest of the day. Have to say day trading this is really enjoyable the past few weeks! GLTA
Comment by smartfinish on Dec 09, 2015 9:39am
Horizons HVU is designed to provide daily investment results, before fees, expenses, distributions, brokerage commissions and other transaction costs, that endeavour to correspond to twice the daily performance of the S&P 500 VIX Short-Term Futures Index™ where is the twice upward and know downward it's twice cheers
Comment by relativenewby1 on Dec 09, 2015 12:17pm
Morning smartfinish You're correct if this was only one contract would expect double either way. What I found useful to help figure this out is the explanation of contango and backwardation. https://tradinggods.net/what-is-vix/contango-and-backwardation/ The problem with these reverse ETF's is the odds are somewhat stacked against you for buying high/selling low as the normal action ...more  
Comment by smartfinish on Dec 09, 2015 11:39pm
Today for a change( hvu) was twice the index today... "The problem with these reverse ETF's is the odds are somewhat stacked against you" Yes i agree with you  cheers
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