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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum BETAPRO SP500 VIX ST FTRS 2X DLY BULL T.HVU

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BETAPRO SP500 VIX ST FTRS 2X DLY BULL > Long weekend read...
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Post by DSurfer on Jun 30, 2016 10:42pm

Long weekend read...

Hang in there Steven1 somedy HVU will pevail !
https://www.thegoldandoilguy.com/markets-read-wrong/
Comment by MayorRobFord on Jul 01, 2016 12:06am
That article sounds like a big loada shitt. He talks as if he knows it can't break above its holding pattern, and says it will go to 1830 IF it doesn't. I see a lot of potential for a big run in S&P. Your money your loss for those in HVU. But then there is no guarantee HVU can"t have a mini run. But get Brexit outta your heads. It's well in the paat and done with.
Comment by Steven1 on Jul 01, 2016 8:41am
Mayor. It's hard to deny that the SP has been in a holding pattern for the past two years.  You are right.  it’s not helping in HVU. The SP can’t break ATH, it’s equally unable to say below 2000 for long.   Actually BREXIT will stay in the news (my opinion). I’m expecting to see a drop in July EU PMI’s and other just based sentiment reports. GDP All the June PMI’s that came out ...more  
Comment by DSurfer on Jul 01, 2016 10:52am
I know... everything is a load of c rap. Unpredictable the whole thing is. INDU touching 1800 again like nothing ever happened. Banks are buying stocks like crazy or is it the Fed's again ? When ever I see another giant HVU spike like 15 ou 20% will sell half. The chances are it won't stay up there for long an this ETF is deadly if you don't get the timing right. Hold the bag for a ...more  
Comment by MayorRobFord on Jul 02, 2016 3:42pm
Thing for market bears to keep in mind is even though stocks may be overvalued in p/e terms, they are still not reflecting the full value with current treasury yields. The feds are still supporting these prices more than ever in history. There is still too much bearishness priced in already. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-bull-market-gets-no-respect-2016-03-05
Comment by Steven1 on Jul 03, 2016 7:27am
Good article. I have heard arguments on both sides.  The other side of the argument is that US Corporate earnings have declined since mid-2014 causing the SP500 PE ratio to be at 24 instead of the more normal 20.   Here is the PE chart of the SP: https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX:!GAAPSPX&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p78552742564   Speaking of treasury yields, they have ...more  
Comment by curiousbuild on Jul 03, 2016 9:20pm
I am reading these two now ;) https://www.cboeoptionshub.com/2016/06/30/first-half-2016-confirms-higher-volatility-regime/ https://pensionpartners.com/the-volatility-cycle/?utm_source=ReviveOldPost&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost
Comment by Shlinker_ on Jul 04, 2016 9:43am
good info, thanks Steven.
Comment by Shlinker_ on Jul 04, 2016 9:40am
Check your dates Mayor, 3 months old, lots has changed, including an overbought market. I do think the S&P 500 hits an ATH this year, but it isnt tomorrow, little own 3 months ago.