BETAPRO SP500 VIX ST FTRS 2X DLY BULL T.HVU

Insane PE ratios

[Steven1]

There are some insane PE ratios among the large Caps.  Exxon 29 and Chevron 147 are quite surprising. Amazon is sitting at 309. FB is at 50. The rest are sitting at 25-32.

The Shiller PE ratio is sitting at 27. There is only a handful companies above 27

Google		32.25
Microsoft		26.74
Exxon Mobil		29.02
Facebook		59.81
Amazon.com		309.81
General Electric		29.62
Procter&Gamble		28.34
Pfizer		30.05
Chevron		147.56

[Eric1212]

Adding to that the fact that oil is going up instead of bad data, big movement on no-news... Something is going worse than ever even if it's was allready going worse than ever... Did you see the +/-  500 yen gap this night on nikkei 225 ?   16 415 ---) 16 679 --- ) 16 174 --- ) 16 534 --- ) 16 174 --- ) 16 569 ...

[Realhumanbean95]

Oil is only up because of usd weakening

[Eric1212]

I just realized it's the same for the SP 500...

[MayorRobFord]

S&P up only 0.22%, and UVXY/HVU down 7.5%? The August future was overpriced as I said before. Lucky I bailed a while back. It is down close to 30% since. Will rebuy after the breakout, assuming it happens.

[borrowedlife]

mayorrobford what's your thought here...will this beetch see atleast faken $12 sometime soon? 

[MayorRobFord]

Just pulling some #'s outta my as$, but HVU could drop to say $5 and then rebound to $8, that would be a 60% gain from the projected low, which is pretty optimistic. If you're in at over $15, there is pretty much no chance you will EVER breakeven. Look at the 5 year chart, keeping in mind this is not a stock, and you'll see what I mean.

[Realhumanbean95]

The vix would need to gain 30% maybe even more since this etf dosent really go 200%. Oil at 37-8 can make that happen but tbh i dont see it going lower 39. We are very close to sub 40 oil however keep your fingers crossed ! Cash in and run away from this

[borrowedlife]

That's the plan realhumanbean..not going to look back once out...I've given this many chances..

[borrowedlife]

Mayor you think $12 atleast....I'll take my losses there ..this is.starting to get retard this market...I know $18 is fn out the question ...looking for anything above $12

[Realhumanbean95]

Dude to get 12$ you need the vix to go up 50% at the least. Look at how the vix has been trading .....

[Eric1212]

Guys, you know the vix can go over 50 ? 30-40 range is also highly likely.

[Realhumanbean95]

Agreed but the vix only went to 50 last august. And in comparison to the oil metldown in february the vix only hit 30. And personally i felt the oil scenario was much worse macro event than the august selloff. So you know we would be hoping for alot to expect a complete meltdown before elections.

[Eric1212]

It's can be after the elections... If by example, we are at 2 $ on HVU and arround 10 on VIX this November and there is something that make the vix come from 10 to 50, it's 500% increase. For HVU it's 1000% + a litle extra from people that buy it too late... 2*1000% = 20 $ and we are in November ! If we are only at 3 $ on HVU, it's 30 $... And if it's like 2008 and it's

[curiousbuild]

Speaking of commodities.. here is interesting chart which I found pretty interesting.. I follow him on twitter and would suggest others to follow. CB https://twitter.com/InsiderBuySS/status/759136034919583745 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Reuters/Jefferies_CRB_Index