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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum BETAPRO SP500 VIX ST FTRS 2X DLY BULL T.HVU

TSX:HVU - Post Discussion

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Post by MayorRobFord on Sep 01, 2016 12:50pm

NFP tomorrow 8:30

Enough of a pullback. Time for S&P to set new highs. Yellen texted me this, I'm only sharing on this board, -ve rates introduced in foreign countries only serve to keep rates in US stable and low. Some of you are right in looking at the US dollar. That is a card up her sleeve as they have exceeded their unemployment targets already. She knows she can keep her job after the election. Please don't share this confidential message. Received on my Crackberry device.
Comment by MayorRobFord on Sep 02, 2016 12:26pm
Well, my last post shoulda been warning enough. Maybe you HVU losers can catch the next bounce
Comment by darthsidious666 on Sep 02, 2016 2:01pm
If the nfp was the deciding factor for rate hike, the market obviously isnt that content of the expectations that werent met. Spx coudnt even hold on to 0.6% gain from the morning.
Comment by MayorRobFord on Sep 02, 2016 2:22pm
That's true about the day's S&P action. But more telling is that HVU didn't rise while the S&P drifted lower. I think it's likely S&P will continue to trek higher and HVU lower.
Comment by GoldMansack on Sep 02, 2016 3:11pm
Ya, I don't think any credible interpretation of daily HVU performance can be made based on the recent NFP report. Despite the >80% correlation in opposite price actions (over the long-term), HVU is not an S&P ETF bear product. You're playing short-term S&P Put purchases, not selling action (big difference conceptually). People need time to process/calculate what Put options ...more  
Comment by RichyRich$ on Sep 06, 2016 4:14pm
GoldSack... Good point about the $SPX:$VIX. It won't be as good of a comparison looking back 10 years because the markets uptrend forever with inflation while the VIX ranges stay in the same general ranges over time. But comparing it to a year ago with other HVU rallies versus the $SPX:$VIX looks like a great plan! I never knew about that symbol on stockcharts. I'll add that to my list of ...more  
Comment by Transit77 on Sep 06, 2016 5:26pm
Great position coming soon, I anticipate 2-3 dollars as a solid bottom I can't see this going lower than that. I say 2.50-3.75 is a great buying range???
Comment by flipher on Sep 06, 2016 7:35pm
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Comment by threewords on Sep 06, 2016 2:13pm
Right on the money Mr Mayor, these days if you're chasing returns there's no better place to be than, HVI, HNU/HND, HOU/HOD AND HGD/HGU, as always do your own due diligence.
Comment by MayorRobFord on Sep 06, 2016 3:24pm
Over the last 30 days, S&P at the same level, but UVXY/HVU down 17%. It's easy to say the S&P is going to crash, but the timing and when to get into HVU and back out, is not simple. ViX etf's making a killing on popular misconceptions. Of course they would rather not try to educate the VIX investor, nor are they obligated to.
Comment by Nakate on Sep 06, 2016 8:26pm
This etf and others like that buy options are an options sellers dream come true, no matter what happen this stupid thing will buy them no matter what as it rolls over, the boys in the pits must laugh all the way to the bank as they offload their losers. 
Comment by threewords on Sep 07, 2016 12:13pm
If you miss me MayorFord, l'll be over at the HGU board, you know who l ran into over there?, Laffingatbaggies, he's got a huge short postion in gold, at least thats what it looks like.I would'nt say he's pumping HGD, but he's really taking a liking to it, l must admit, so have l as well. Don't know where you stand on HVU, but at this rate it can't be long until the ...more  
Comment by MayorRobFord on Sep 07, 2016 3:43pm
I think gold has a lot of ways to drop, but not sure of timing. GLD put will beat HGD returns by far if you time right. In one week you could make multiple times your investment with the right expiry.