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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Largo Inc T.LGO

Alternate Symbol(s):  LGO

Largo Inc. is a Canada-based producer and supplier of vanadium products. The Company’s segments include sales & trading, mine properties, corporate, exploration and evaluation properties (E&E properties), Largo Clean Energy and Largo Physical Vanadium. Its VPURE and VPURE+ products, which are sourced from one of the vanadium deposits at the Company's Maracas Menchen Mine in Brazil. The Company... see more

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Largo Inc > Q3 back-of-the-envelope
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Post by kha341 on Oct 05, 2021 12:34am

Q3 back-of-the-envelope

Clipper2 wrote:
The average price of V2O5 for Q3 was $9.20  which is approx. $1.00 more than Q2.



The key variable = Revenue per pound sold.


The Q1 average price per pound of Euro V2O5 = US$7.09/lb 

while the average Q1 Revenue per pound of equivalent V2O5 = US$6.49


The Q2 average price per pound of Euro V2O5 = US$8.19/lb 

while the average Q1 Revenue per pound of equivalent V2O5 = US$8.14



So it’s not easy to have a good forecast of the Revenue per pound however, for the sake of argument, let’s assume that the Q3 Revenue per pound  = the Q3 average price per pound V2O5 = US$9.20/lb 



Q3-21 Back-of-the-envelope

Assuming Production = ~6.8M pound (same as Q2-21)

Assuming Sales = ~6.7M pounds (same as Q2-21)

Assuming average per pound of “equivalent V2O5” = ~US$9.20



Estimated Revenue =  US$9.20 x 6.7M pounds = US$61.6M (= US$7.3M higher than Q2’s)

In this scenario, we assume that Q3 production remains the same as Q2’s therefore Q3 costs should not be higher than Q2’s considering the fact that there were some one-time expenses in Q2 (as per Cleave). So in this scenario, I expect Q3 total costs = Q2 total costs = US$40.1M. 

Therefore I expect the Estimated Q3 Net Income Before Tax = US$61.6 - 40.1M = US$21.1M (providing that we will have the same FX gain of 3M as in Q2-21)



The current analysts Mean EPS estimate for Q3-21 = C$0.31 = ~US$0.25 or an estimated Net Income After Tax of (C$0.31 x 64,686,178 o/s shares) = C$20.1M = US$15.9M


The question is: “Can we go from US$21.1M in Net Income Before Tax to US$15.9M in Net Income After Tax to meet the analysts consensus? “


Note: Largo booked 

US$5.7M in Income Tax Expense/Deferred out of a Total Revenue of US$54.3M in Q2-21

and

US$303K in Income Tax Expense/Deferred out of a Total Revenue of US$38.8M in Q3-21


Will we book US$5M in Income Tax Expense/Deferred in Q3-21? Very unlikely imho. In other words, Largo will likely meet Q3 EPS expectation, imho.

DYODD

Comment by jcw604 on Oct 05, 2021 7:43am
last quarter, they failed miserably only at 14 cents. This quarter's expectation is still high at 0.31, with the 4th quarter expectation even higher at 0.42. Q3 I am not sure. For Q4, they will definitely miss it unless the PoV goes up significantly after the settling of Evergrande.
Comment by MetalsMan on Oct 05, 2021 11:04am
So even if they nail Q3, they'll warn on the call and it's another kick in the teeth for us.
Comment by jcw604 on Oct 06, 2021 1:42am
Warning in the CC is good, showing their willingness to be transparent.
Comment by jcw604 on Oct 07, 2021 5:25am
Usually, they will only provide production and cost guidance as they have no control over the price of V. They let the analysts figure out their actual estimates.
Comment by kha341 on Oct 05, 2021 9:18am
Should read: "US$303K in Income Tax Expense/Deferred out of a Total Revenue of US$38.8M in Q1-21"