Post by
gltaisignlongs on May 21, 2022 5:21pm
SP and risk/rewards
IMO the SP is a reflection of where shareholders see price based on different probabilities in terms of risk/reward....
First of all - I do not hold a position on Largo at the moment but have been in and out multiple times - Last time I was invested in Largo was when we expected to make some money with the sales of iron ore. The main reason to sell after the CC was the shameless LIES and lack of transparency (I do not believe for a second that PV the head of sales did not know about the issues with iron ore...since he was the head of sales he would have been the first to know about China nott wanting it)
Why I am still out... (not only from LGO but from almost everything)
1) Rome was not built in one day and thesamegoesfor integrity: either you have integrity or you don't... I do not trust management.
2) Market conditions:
- We are in a bear market even if we have bear rallies: stocks in general go down
- interest rates are going up (normally dollar goes up and commodities go down)
- China continues to struggle with Covid - this impacts everything.... China is the biggest consumer of everything
- the company is losing money with high V prices
- etc
3) I have big hopes for VRFB but this will take time - take a look at the projections that management provides and compare this to reality
- I do not trust this management on delivering on those projections
- one small sale in a year
- sales of VRFB in general are tiny compared with other technologies.
- it will take years for us to see profits from this division...in the mean time the mining business will have to pay the related expenses
4) IMO SP has gone up on the expectation that the buybacks will make a big difference and even this is questionable
- the share buyback is at management discretion - they might decide to only buy a fraction of what was announced and then stop
- the more the SP rises the less shares will be bought back
- timing of the buyback is questionable in relation to the market: in the past Largo has been sitting on a pile of cash and instead of doing something with this cash management has opted to borrow money and pay interest on the debt to enhance the working capital.... now that interest are going up management decides that it is a good time to spend a big chunk of this cash (many other companies aregoing on the opposite direction)
I still like this company but no the risk/reward proposition based on the points above.
GLTA Longs.
Comment by
NewAgeMetal on May 24, 2022 3:24pm
I'm out, for now at least, check back in 12 -18 months. it's been a ride, but regardless of the fundamentals-these guys just can't seem to execute. it's a sad day good luck to the remaining longs, a dedicated bunch.
Comment by
kikker01 on May 25, 2022 9:42am
I want out as well. Not ready to stomach the loss, but its only gotten bigger. I was prepared to cut management some slack for a Q or 2 as bad Qs wil happen but with this manangment its the norm. Since theyve gone solo its been down hill. No such thing as a successfull company run by poor managers. i dont think we have the team in place for success.
Comment by
ceetong on May 27, 2022 2:34pm
I think it would be better to wait for a notable number of VRFB sales being announced (not necessarily Vcharge+- units) rather than a pre-fixed amount of time. Once it becomes clear V flow batteries have a market, the story should gain traction and interest in V producers should increase.