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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum LAKE SHORE GOLD CORP 6.25 PCT DEBS T.LSG.DB

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Post by goldhappy on Jun 15, 2012 5:48am

2500 tpd

If Tony is budgeting 2500 tpd

3100 tons at 5 grams per ton = 401.9 ounces per day ... 146,704 ounces per year

2500 tons at 5 grams per ton = 498    ounces per day ... 181,913 ounces per year

So from what I can make out we will miss production by 100 ounces per day

If LSG gets the production cost down to $600 and gold at $1600 we will miss $100,000 per day for every day the new mill expansion is not up and running at full potential.

$100,000 per day times 30 days = $3,000,000 our company won't have each month.

If the mill is not ready for 6 months = $18,000,000 our company won't have to pay bills and dividends..!!

Looking at what LSG is doing to conserve money is not a bad thing to replenish the missing $18,000,000

 I think LSG will high grade the mine to bring up the revenue. That will tend to hide the mill problem as people read the bottom line.

Can LSG meet the $600 per ounce production costs ???

High grading the mine will allow management to miss targets creating gaps of profits that should be paid to shareholders. Guidance is a tool we have to gauge profits. If that tool is mismanaged it is the shareholder that suffers. The high grading at higher forecast tonnage would put a quicker time line on paying down debt. It would bring even greater profits to the company.

Management will write this off as not a big deal while our money is on the line. No , some of our money is on the line. The rest is lost for a long time. Cutting management bonus will put pain and attention to the problem of poor guidance.

Comment by Timminsgold on Jun 15, 2012 9:55am
LSG has been consistently producing in excess of 5g/t for some time now. The days of processing development ore are over (I hope) They are approaching 5.5 g/t and are targeting 6 g/t by the end of the 3Q, As more of the ore is milled from the Timmins mine, the grade should improve to over 6g/t, consistent if mine estimates. RE HYGRADING: there are sections at the Timmins Mine, that ...more  
Comment by goldhappy on Jun 15, 2012 10:33am
Timminsgold...You have access to information I can only speculate about. Thanks very much for sharing with our "board". I just labled it high grading to let people know they have been consistent with the produced gold forecasts. I have been around a very long time and fully understand what should take place...get that high grade up asap in the early stages to pay bills. Later the ores ...more  
Comment by bosse on Jun 15, 2012 10:56am
What a nightmare!!! I think we will have to suffer for sometime yet. I'm and will stay long. The gold will stay there...the milling grade has improved acordind to Timminsgold ,they have the funds but something is missing and not the least:...:MANAGMENT !!!! I think we are overdue for a big change
Comment by Timminsgold on Jun 15, 2012 11:33am
I think you are missing the point. LSG has been, for quite some time processing development ore. They are now into sufficient mineable stopes that grade 5/6 g/t at the Timmins mine to sustain production at these higher grades. Q2 results will either confirm, or contradict that the forecast ore is there and capable of being consistently mined. Many mining analysts gave up on LSG and blew ...more  
Comment by Alternative on Jun 15, 2012 1:22pm
Timminsgold, thanks for your comments but do you really think Markuch should be running this company moving forward?? He may have learned some lessons but it SEEMS like he is in way over his head and as a result we are sucking wind and have lost all credibility with investors and analysts alike.
Comment by Timminsgold on Jun 15, 2012 4:05pm
Tony works with the cards he's dealt. We certainly question many decisions that have been made by he and his senior management. He has made many good decions, but also many bonehead decisions. Perhaps one of his worst has been over-promining. He has a few quarters to show his stuff.If the results are not as expected, then, perhaps our chairman and the board will be forced to review ...more  
Comment by goldhappy on Jun 15, 2012 5:20pm
FNX were INCO MINES. The group the grabbed it up were former INCO staff. Union hating management closed the mines to be contracted out. Basically the infastructure was in place. The exploration targets were well known...ie: the HG FW Copper with very high precious metals.The remnant ore and pillars were ripe for the taking. It was a big mistake for INCO to let those properties go. VALE management ...more  
Comment by yoda2 on Jun 16, 2012 5:57pm
Also FNX was full of many former Inco managers including the CEO/ chairman McGibbon who guided strtategy, finances and investor relations. Any experience Makuch would have had at FNX would likely have been limited to operations and may have prepared him well to be a mine manager. But he would not likely have received the experience to be the leader of a company.
Comment by goldhappy on Jun 16, 2012 10:09pm
Good follow up yoda...thanks for backing me
Comment by goldhappy on Jun 17, 2012 5:38am
Lets not forget the former INCO President and his friend Jon that is director of LSG and former Manager for the INCO President. Not that it is bad for us as the were highly skilled managers. My fear is that INCO was sawed up and gone now. What damage could be inflicted on LSG if managers deside to saw up the company?? The other side of the coin is perhaps we will do very well following ...more  
Comment by yoda2 on Jun 17, 2012 9:04pm
Auhappy, you are so fortunate to be such an opitimist. And you are so right--the Au is in the ground and things will eventually work out . And as you say, the mill is a bottleneck and it will get fixed. Unfortunately, the litany of excuses and promises may indicate that the bigger bottleneck is the capacity of management. This may take more time and more luck to fix. Like you, I hope we do not run ...more  
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