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Post by rockmstockm on Feb 10, 2014 10:23pm

Loose lips sink ships

It seems that the death of JPMorgan Vice President, Gabriel Magee may not be a suicide as this death is now under investigation by London Police as a possible homicide. It is interesting that supposedly he fell from the 33rd floor of which he did not have access. The official story was that he leapt to his death at 8: 02 am on the 28th, yet his girlfriend reported him missing on the 27th. He emailed her that he was coming on right away and never showed up.

(courtesy Pam Martens)

Suspicious Death of JPMorgan Vice President, Gabriel Magee, Under Investigation in London

By Pam Martens: February 9, 2014

“Police were called at approximately 08.02 hrs on Tuesday 28 January to reports of a man having fallen from a building at 25 Bank Street, E14 and landing on a ninth floor roof. London Ambulance Service and London Air Ambulance attended. The man was pronounced dead at the scene a short while later. The deceased is believed to be aged 39. We believe we know the identity of the deceased but await formal identification. Next of kin have been informed. No arrests have been made and the death is being treated as non-suspicious.”
/hiw.me/standardnews/status/428279281895342081" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px currentColor; color: rgb(98, 118, 153); vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent;" rel="noindex nofollow" target="_blank">tweeted: “Bankers watch JP Morgan IT exec fall to his death from roof of London HQ,” which linked to their article which declared in its opening sentence that “A man plunged to his death from a Canary Wharf tower in front of thousands of horrified commuters today.”
At this moment in time, police have yet to produce a single witness who saw Magee jump from the rooftop of this building, let alone “thousands of horrified commuters.” (Exactly why would thousands of horrified commuters be standing in front of 25 Bank Street at 8:02 a.m. with their necks tilted up toward the roof? Magee did not land on the sidewalk; his body was found on a rooftop 9 floors above street level.) Both the Independent and London Evening Standard newspapers are majority owned by Alexander Lebedev, a Russian and former KGB agent.
No one in the media seemed to notice that Iain Dey, Deputy Business Editor of the Sunday Times in London, flatly disputed the notion that a plunge from the rooftop had been observed by anyone when he reported that: “Gabriel Magee’s body lay for several hours before it was found at 8am last Tuesday.”
The only facts in this case which are currently reliable are that fellow workers looking from their windows in the building noticed a body lying on the 9th level rooftop, which juts out from the main 33-story building, at around 8:02 a.m. on Tuesday, January 28, and called the police. There is no concrete proof at this moment in time that Magee fell, jumped or was ever on the 33-story rooftop, which is a highly secured area of the building unobtainable by employees other than top security and maintenance personnel. According to design documents that have been publicly filed, the rooftop functions as a highly sophisticated cooling plant with large, bulky machinery taking up the majority of the space on the side of the building from which Magee would have had to jump in order to land on the 9th level rooftop.
No solid evidence exists currently to suggest that the death was a suicide. In fact, there is a strong piece of evidence pointing in the opposite direction. Magee had emailed his girlfriend, Veronica, on the evening of January 27 to say that he was about to leave the office and would see her shortly. She received no further emails from him, suggesting that whatever happened to Magee happened shortly thereafter, not the next morning. According to multiple sources, Magee’s girlfriend reported his disappearance on the evening of January 27. The Metropolitan Police would provide me with no details on that investigation.
The JPMorgan building at 25 Bank Street is located in the borough of Tower Hamlets. According to drawings and plans submitted by JPMorgan to the borough after it purchased the building for £495 million in 2010, the 9th floor roof is accessible “via the stair from level 8 within the existing Level 9 plant enclosure…” In other words, it would be just as reasonable to entertain the possibility that Magee suffered his physical injuries inside the building and his body was placed on the 9th level rooftop via an internal staircase access sometime during the night of January 27.
The LinkedIn profile that Magee set up for himself online indicates that he was involved with “Technical architecture oversight for planning, development, and operation of systems for fixed income securities and interest rate derivatives.” As a key part of the computer technology group in London, Magee may have been involved in providing subpoenaed material for the London Whale investigation and the myriad other investigations that JPMorgan has been sanctioned and fined for over the last year. There are two serious open investigations into foreign exchange rigging and potential manipulation of commodities markets.
The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) lists the man known as the London Whale, Bruno Iksil, who is cooperating with criminal prosecutors, and the two traders who have been criminally charged with hiding hundreds of millions of dollars in losses, Javier Martin-Artajo and Julien Grout, as having the same JPMorgan address, 25 Bank Street, as did Gabriel Magee.
Documents produced by the U.S. Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, however, show a 2012 address for JPMorgan’s Chief Investment Office in London, supposedly where the London Whale trades were originating, as 100 Wood Street, 6thFloor, London. If the London Whale traders were located at an address other than the European Headquarters for JPMorgan, it could have been to evade detection by regulators that the firm was using bank deposits in the United States, that carried FDIC insurance, to place high risk gambles in London in the derivatives market.
The Senate’s 300-page report noted that key traders involved in the London Whale matter, including Iksil, Martin-Artajo, and Grout, refused to submit to interviews by the Senate investigators. The Senate report notes that “their refusal to provide information to the Subcommittee meant that this Report had to be prepared without their direct input. The Subcommittee relied instead on their internal emails, recorded telephone conversations and instant messages, internal memoranda and presentations, and interview summaries prepared by the bank’s internal investigation, to reconstruct what happened.”
If Magee became aware that incriminating emails, instant messages, or video teleconferences were not turned over in their entirety to Senate investigators or Justice Department prosecutors, that might be reason enough for his untimely death. Yes, this is speculation. But it is along the lines that smart thinking investigators need to intensely explore to bring peace of mind and answers to Gabriel Magee’s loved ones and coworkers.


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Comment by LexMark747 on Feb 10, 2014 10:44pm
JP Morgan, Banker, Vice President  ............ Not to sound cold hearted or viscious but as far as I'm concerned any one affiliated with JP Morgan / The Banksters better known as the gangsters ....... Possibly the rest could jump or be thrown off of the 34th floor possibly.  They are getting their just deserts.
Comment by rallard on Feb 11, 2014 11:01am
Good start...but only one? I figure a trebuchet and a line of JP Morgan and Goldman execs would be a better start.
Comment by LexMark747 on Feb 11, 2014 1:15pm
Dam you rallard ............ You trumped me ............ ROFL ........
Comment by Majormac79 on Feb 11, 2014 1:24pm
It is actually 4 high level bankers in the last three weeks that "committed suicide"  https://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and-derivatives-towards-the-implosion-of-the-global-financial-system/5367288
Comment by rallard on Feb 11, 2014 6:11pm
tying up loose ends and setting up the goats. Some one has to take the "fall" for the impending currency collapse...why not a dead guy? Ya know taking one for the team.(middle management) always seems to take the blame...the CEO's were in the dark...when the scams were put in motion...Yup.plausible deny..........ability Be sure to have your stock certificates of LSG if you don't ...more  
Comment by baranja on Feb 11, 2014 6:19pm
>>Be sure to have your stock certificates of LSG if you don't you actually do not own the stock the bank you trade through does. Call the trust company to have your certificates delivered. Yep, you got it, you can also keep it in DRS too with computershare.  If many people do that, the stock would explode as shorts will have to cover.
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 12, 2014 9:26am
If there were such a disaster that electronic records of stock ownership were not honored, why would paper certificates be honored? Under what circumstances does a financial institution have the right to confiscate your property? Please explain.
Comment by rallard on Feb 12, 2014 10:15am
They do not need to "confiscate",You are a creditor of the bank. The money you put in the bank or the stock is not yours after it enters the door of the bank. The bank just gives you an IOU Small creditors are the first to loose when things go south. Remember banks never loose. Holding the certificate insures your ownership of that stock and not the banks.
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 12, 2014 10:35am
rallard, if I understand you correctly, you're saying that if I deposit shares in a bank they do not have to pay me back the shares? They simply give me an "IOU", which they have no obligation to honor? And if the bank goes bankrupt, their creditors have no obligation to honor the share agreements in the accounts that hold the shares? Is that what you're trying to say? " ...more  
Comment by wolfe1 on Feb 12, 2014 10:51am
Even worse, if the financial institution that has control of your shares, they can short your company.......... But thats the price we pay for instant liquidity, if you take possesion it takes more time & money to buy & sell..........good for longer term holds.............. Not all financial institutions are equal
Comment by baranja on Feb 12, 2014 10:17am
exactly what rallars said.  You DON"T own those shares. Your brokerage does and they can do anything they want with them. You only have computer entry with them, that's it. Many things can happen if you are day to day trader and if you buy and sell many times per day, it is fantastic tool, but if you are long...
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 12, 2014 10:46am
baranja, you say, "Many things can happen".   Could you describe a scenario in which you would no longer be able to do what you wish with those shares held by a bank for your convenience? thanks
Comment by baranja on Feb 12, 2014 11:05am
Insolvent bank.... MF Gloal scenario, how about Maddoff, Great depression colapse,.... Or just simply.. "here is cash, ..no shares for you, sorry about inconvenience..".. Can this happen,.. maybe.. who knows.
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 12, 2014 11:36am
"Can this happen,.. maybe.. who knows." I'm looking for actual evidence that the "Urban Legend" is true, that you don't own your shares if held for you in a financial institution. Do you have any?
Comment by TurtleNamedSam on Feb 12, 2014 3:51pm
You got me curious, so I looked at the customer ageement I have with BMO Investorline. There  I found the following, which I am pretty sure is similar to agreements with other brokers: "Any free credit balances held by BMO InvestorLine from time to time in the Investment Account to the Client’s credit need not be segregated and may be used by BMO InvestorLine in the ordinary conduct of ...more  
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 12, 2014 4:21pm
While not pretending to understand the precise legal language, I would assume that any asset deposited at any financial institution is treated in the same manner.  So, to be consistent one must not deposit any cash, shares, safety deposit box items, etc. into any financial institution, ever...... I'm not sure we're at that point yet, but if a significant portion of the poulation ...more  
Comment by TurtleNamedSam on Feb 12, 2014 5:26pm
Precisely. And that is why people in China, India and Argentina to name a few, are flocking to gold, and that is why the people who create fiat money are trying to convince them otherwise. Assets hidden under the mattress don't pay interest and won't grow the economy. It won't be long before American expatriates with Canadian bank accounts will be doing the same thing. Its a ...more  
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 13, 2014 9:17am
"It won't be long before American expatriates with Canadian bank accounts will be doing the same thing."  Are you predicting that Americans living outside the US will soon be keeping all their Canadian savings as Gold, under their mattresses, so to speak?  How much money are you talking about?
Comment by rallard on Feb 13, 2014 9:56am
“Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – zero.” (Voltaire, 1694-1778 Every fiat currency that has every been created and that is 600, have gone to zero. If you think the currency we have now is immune and we live in the "modern world" it could never happen, let me introduce you to some German's from the 1920's-30's they lived in the modern world too. The US ...more  
Comment by TurtleNamedSam on Feb 13, 2014 10:17am
How would I know? That is what the IRS is trying to find out.  Keep tuned.
Comment by rockhound73 on Feb 13, 2014 11:03am
So, it could be insignificantly small?
Comment by baranja on Feb 12, 2014 5:28pm
Computershare is transfer agent for most of the companies. You just call you brokerage house and tell them you want to move such and such shares to DRS. There will be small fee, but they will do everything for you. You will get confirmation and if you want web access to your holdings, just call them and they will set you up with Web interface and access to your holdings. Very nicely ...more  
Comment by wolfe1 on Feb 13, 2014 12:37pm
My financialhouse charges $50 for DRS per certificate plus third party fee's. As well Canada last year also adopted the your deposit is our money policy as did most other countries. Does Cyprus & haicuts sound familiar ?
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