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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Neo Performance Materials Inc T.NEO

Alternate Symbol(s):  NOPMF

Neo Performance Materials Inc. is a Canada-based company, which is engaged in the green energy transition by manufacturing the building blocks of many technologies that enhance sustainability. The Company's segments include Magnequench, Chemicals and Oxides (C&O), Rare Metals and Corporate. The Magnequench segment manufactures bonded neodymium-iron-boron (NdFeB or neo) powders and bonded... see more

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Neo Performance Materials Inc > earnings - key point
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Post by Possibleidiot01 on Nov 11, 2022 9:52am

earnings - key point

Commodity prices fluctuate and while higher cost inventory sales raised revenues , they also lowered margins.

""With regard to the quarter, while rare earth pricing remains attractive in absolute dollar terms, and is nearly double pre-pandemic norms, the retreat in pricing we have seen over the past six months placed short-term pressure on our margin levels, as higher cost inventory flows through our results of operations," he added. "This lead-lag volatility is normal in our industry and, of course, we reap the benefit in a rising price environment."
Comment by freed1freed1 on Nov 11, 2022 10:03am
ouch
Comment by freed1freed1 on Nov 11, 2022 10:13am
goodbye
Comment by neosceptic on Nov 11, 2022 11:54am
Yes, ouch, someone recently bought 67M worth of NEO at $15/share. Of course it is still s-t and hopefully they are right. Good for NEO cash position, together with grant it can expand, but they have to do something about cost control.
Comment by neosceptic on Nov 11, 2022 10:53am
Higher cost inventory do not raise revenue. Revenue is driven by market price of the commodity. If you buy expensive material, but price on it drops, nobody would care how much you pay for it. But lead lag do exist. If NEO is not covering up own mistakes or l-t problems, we should see improved margin next quarter. Magnets is good business now, but supply disruptions and economy problems is here ...more  
Comment by Possibleidiot01 on Nov 11, 2022 12:03pm
You are making some good points. It's possible I phrased my point badly but  "while rare earth pricing remains attractive in absolute dollar terms, and is nearly double pre-pandemic norms" does not affect revenues , well, I think that might be debatable. Onto seekingalpha headline Neo Performance Materials down after Q3 results miss consensus Nov. 11, 2022 11:40 AM ...more  
Comment by neosceptic on Nov 14, 2022 10:29am
Yes, it is possible that the large expense figure relate to accounting treatment and next quarter it will normalize, but 82% margin collapse still impressive, could be more than that. I think 8M charge is to get next quarter numbers look like rebound even more. Since they knew that margin will get hit, instead of smoothing, Neo decided to maximize expense to "clean up" balance sheet for ...more  
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