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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Oncolytics Biotech Inc T.ONC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ONCY

Oncolytics Biotech Inc. is a clinical-stage biotechnology company. The Company is focused on developing pelareorep, an intravenously delivered immunotherapeutic agent that activates the innate and adaptive immune systems and weakens tumor defense mechanisms. This compound induces anti-cancer immune responses and promotes an inflamed tumor phenotype turning cold tumors hot through innate and... see more

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Oncolytics Biotech Inc > Validating surrogate end points
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Post by westcoast1000 on Aug 15, 2023 5:07pm

Validating surrogate end points

Published online 2016 May 10. doi: 10.1016/j.mayocp.2016.02.012
PMCID: PMC5104665
NIHMSID: NIHMS763236
PMID: 27236424

Strength of Validation for Surrogate End Points Used in the US Food and Drug Administration’s Approval of Oncology Drugs

Chul Kim, MD, MPH and Vinay Prasad, MD, MPH

The paper noted above from 2016 has this paragraph  in the intro:

The validation of surrogate end points in oncology is an increasingly important field, with different statistical methods used. We favor a clear and simple hierarchy to grade the strength of surrogate-survival correlations., In this model, level 3—the lowest level—requires the surrogate-survival correlation to be only biologically plausible. Level 2 and level 1 analyses require clinical data. Although level 2 analysis shows that the surrogate is associated with the final outcome across groups, level 1 analysis addresses the clinically relevant question of whether improving the surrogate end point is associated with improvements in survival across many randomized studies. Typically, regression analysis is performed in level 1 studies. The x coordinate reflects the change in surrogate end point, and the y coordinate reflects the change in final end point. Correlation coefficients (r) closer to 1 signify stronger associations. As such, the validation of surrogate-survival associations in oncology exists along an established hierarchy.


Back to ONCY, clearly there are studies, regressions and history linking PFS and ORR to OS in broad terms. For pela the other issue is the genetic and other testing that is done to identify the status of the immune system of the patient as an indicator of potential response. Clearly for an immunoloical therapy like pela the status of the immune system is conceptally and practically an important indicator of being able to stimulate the immune system.

The vanished post from Q does point out that ONCY has never stated how it uses the biomarkers it found in its multi year quest to find them. We do not know if they can or will use the biomarkers for recruiting patients for trials. We could expect they would be used for future precision medicine.

My thoughts anyway. 
Comment by Noteable on Aug 15, 2023 5:42pm
From FDA 2023 - A surrogate endpoint used for accelerated approval is a marker - a laboratory measurement, radiographic image, physical sign or other measure that is thought to predict clinical benefit, but is not itself a measure of clinical benefit.  The FDA instituted its Accelerated Approval Program to allow for earlier approval of drugs that treat serious conditions, and fill an ...more  
Comment by Buckhenry on Aug 15, 2023 9:19pm
I wonder how much unnoteable gets paid per post?  Or is he posting to reassure himself and fellow dreamers.  Some folks are very insecure and need that self reassurance. 
Comment by Noteable on Aug 15, 2023 9:36pm
Perhaps its more like your insecurity which drives your mindless posts - right get smart?
Comment by Buckhenry on Aug 15, 2023 10:05pm
Perhaps but not logical. You folks live in ur own wizard of Oz  fairytale. The rest of us live in reality. And this is not reality fake TV. 
Comment by Noteable on Aug 15, 2023 11:30pm
And what we get from you is just have more Get Smart comedy show re-runs, right?
Comment by Buckhenry on Aug 16, 2023 12:08pm
Year 2050.... Wainwright's great grandson reiterates oncy target price at $15. Unnoteable's great-grandson reiterates a 20B buyout price any day now....  just got to be patient folks.