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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Peyto Exploration & Development Corp T.PEY

Alternate Symbol(s):  PEYUF

Peyto Exploration & Development Corp. is a Canadian energy company involved in the development and production of natural gas, oil and natural gas liquids in Alberta's deep basin. The Alberta Deep Basin is a geologic setting situated on the northeastern front of the Rocky Mountain belt in the deepest part of the Alberta sedimentary basin. It acquired Repsol Canada Energy Partnership (Repsol... see more

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Post by ngtraderng on Jan 24, 2022 11:17am

$7.5

If it does come down to $7.5 it should be a good buying opportunity.
Comment by Investnowplease on Jan 25, 2022 1:07pm
I have invested a large sum into Peyto, for me anyways. Its a very well run company, with super low costs. Most bought at around the 8$ mark.  i believe there break even cost is around $1.50 for its gas isnt it? Might be wrong though. At that amount they are generating huge surplus cashflow.  why is there no love for this stock? I bet was it was an easy double from $8.  ...more  
Comment by Yasch22 on Jan 25, 2022 3:56pm
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Comment by Investnowplease on Jan 25, 2022 4:10pm
Thank you explains allot.  Debt to caskflow is managable now though.   That would be below 2x. well as far as stock price goes they hit a low of 1.20 ish.  Thats roughly a 8x.   Yes good but compare to say nuvista which went from a low of .25 to now 8 ish that is 32x.  just saying that imo there is plenty if upside left in comparision to peers. Im in and plan to go ...more  
Comment by TerribleEng on Jan 25, 2022 6:20pm
Full-cycle breakevens are closer to $2.20/GJ. The cash price that gets quotes is only the operational cost. Once you factor in the Drilling & completion cost, and the cost of land acquisition it goes from that $1.50 mark to $2.20/GJ, maybe a bit more. You need to consider full cycle costs, otherwise the company ceases to exist as they would run out of drilling locations. The other thing is you ...more  
Comment by Investnowplease on Jan 25, 2022 9:20pm
Not pumping.   Disagree on your thoughts on NVA. They where never in a position to merge.  Painted pony was a disaster and over extended themselves. Then the commodity crashed. Nva's asset are top quality. There issue was the bought a property in The 500m range. Then the commodity price fell into the toilet with the covid crash. The now have wells that are a resource play that is ...more  
Comment by Investnowplease on Jan 25, 2022 9:36pm
Additionally i like that you quote ful cycle econs unlike most companies.  Thats true numbers.   Clearly an insider. 
Comment by TerribleEng on Jan 26, 2022 8:39am
Yeah I get that. They were in an OXY type situation. They bought things and then the revenue didn't materialize because commodity prices fell so they couldn't support the burden. They are a very viable and profitable company now, just when comparing investment returns and looking at 10x versus 32x... it's very sensitive to the company that dropped to $0.30. If they had only dropped to ...more  
Comment by Investnowplease on Jan 26, 2022 1:38pm
Totally agree. They are 14 x at even 60c.   as far as gas goes im a true believe in supply and demand.  Demand will go up, supply isnt there. Natural declines with investment at present levels are not being arrested.  That takes time. Short term there will be issues imo.  Long term who knows.  Fracs crew utilization is not at precocid levels. That says allot and speaks ...more  
Comment by sportstermathew on Jan 26, 2022 4:12pm
You have to be pretty stupid to ring up more debt in this market unless you drill new wells that are paying back so handsomly it is a no brainer. Or unless you do a takeover, and then it well better be a darn good one. So I don't think Peyto's debt will be any higher than at present unless they can bring in so much cashflow within 12 months. Lets put it this way, you can make a killing ...more  
Comment by Investnowplease on Jan 26, 2022 5:19pm
I added a few thousand today as well. Pretty much full for my portfolio.  Added more baytex and more Keyera. They lag as well. There cashflow is a given no matter what. Cant argue with 7% div either
Comment by TerribleEng on Jan 27, 2022 7:35am
Exactly. When people talk about debt between two companies I typically use two though processes: 1) What would the company look like without any debt? 2) What could they buy now if they took on that debt today. For 1, gas companies are trading for a $25K per flowing BOE so Peyto would need to sell off 40% of the company or so. Leaving it with 60K in production and around 500mmcf in plant capacity. ...more  
Comment by houbahop on Jan 26, 2022 5:54am
Assuming a conversion of 1:6 for the 11% of Peyto's oil and LNG production to convert it into mcf of natgas equivalent, Peyto's full cycle break-even including interest on debt, g&a, bonus, royalties, depletion, depreciation,amortization, etc $2.50/mcf * Depletion, depreciation, decommissioning provision, etc: $1.30/mcf Operation cost: $0.56/mcf G&A and stock options: $0.06/mcf ...more  
Comment by Oldnagger on Jan 26, 2022 7:49am
Very informative analysis, but I would think that whatever happens to nat gas in Europe would be largely irrelevant to Peyto as a North American producer !!  
Comment by TerribleEng on Jan 26, 2022 8:19am
You are right and I have been saying similar on the demand side. An overseas pricing of an importer is largely irrelevant to Peyto. What isn't though is that the Biden admin in the last week or so had been going out to Qatar, Australia, and North Africa to increase investment in natural gas to avoid shortages incase of sanctions on Russia. This admin is bonkers, and they are messing with the ...more  
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