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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum PyroGenesis Inc T.PYR

Alternate Symbol(s):  PYRGF

PyroGenesis Inc., formerly PyroGenesis Canada Inc., is a Canada-based high-tech company. The Company is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and commercialization of advanced plasma processes and sustainable solutions which reduce greenhouse gases (GHG). The Company has created proprietary, patented and advanced plasma technologies that are used in four markets: iron ore... see more

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PyroGenesis Inc > Electricity requirements for torches answered by PYR CEO
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Post by developbc on Apr 15, 2021 5:29pm

Electricity requirements for torches answered by PYR CEO

Great answer but note the extreme bold statements-just pointed out 2 that are very telling which I also highlighted..please read in it's entirety:

"Particularly when you consider that multiple plants seem to be lining up to do basically the same thing in unison.   I would suggest that even initial torch orders, when combined, could be staggering. "

"... right now everything is lining up as it should.  Personally, I do not see any real alternative option if one is going to change out diesel burners with a true, cradle-to-grave, green technology. "

Agoracom: Small Cap Investment - PyroGenesis Canada Inc - Re: Electricity requirements for torches

Dear Snowdrift,

Good to hear from you again....and again with a tough one.

I think I answered this before...here is a refresher...and maybe with a bit more colour added:

Regarding the electrical installation of our torches, it is true that end-users may in some situations have to incur some additional costs if they plan to install torches at large scale... but this is not a new development and was known by all parties from the outset.  In cases of large-scale implementation, it is fully anticipated that there may be an investment required to progress to fossil free production of steel using plasma and we are moving forward.  I would suggest that the thinking may be...maybe !!....that along the way a lot of torches can be sold before we get to that tipping point and by that time any electrical requirements can be put in place...

I do not think people fully understand the sheer magnitude of the problem facing the industry and how sweet a plasma torch solution is.

There are huge benefits in changing out their current fuel system with electricity...huge benefits...and dare I suggest that the current environment might be ripe to finance such a green change out????  Get my drift...?  This also takes time to consider amongst all the moving pieces...

I believe that many clients are indeed lining up their financing sources to get the conversion process started, (like buying 1-4 torches as previously discussed).  I also believe that as we start building out the torches the electrical needs will be addressed (interesting way to stimulate the economy and go green as well, no?).

Although this has its unique time line, we very quickly see the impact it would have to Pyro’s top line.  Doesn’t take many torch sales to have that impact. Particularly when you consider that multiple plants seem to be lining up to do basically the same thing in unison.   I would suggest that even initial torch orders, when combined, could be staggering. 

I could be entirely off base and something may come up that no one around the table anticipated, but right now everything is lining up as it should.  Personally, I do not see any real alternative option if one is going to change out diesel burners with a true, cradle-to-grave, green technology.

Hope that helps,

Peter

Comment by LastZaz on Apr 15, 2021 5:37pm
Very nice to hear some reassurance on this front. Looks like we may have more torch orders than we thought to start. Thank you. 
Comment by Chrisgodfrey202 on Apr 15, 2021 5:55pm
Where this falls today is not in the decision of yes or no but in the decision when.  Large corporations dot their i's and cross their t's before a major move.  This takes time and throw the need to cost out electrical infrastructure and determine electric availabilities slows the decision making process. 4 mths. Easily become 8 or 12
Comment by Dangler on Apr 15, 2021 6:13pm
Wow, nice work... Thank you developbc
Comment by Chrisgodfrey202 on Apr 16, 2021 9:01am
My point is that it is going to happen and Peters optimism is well founded, but the electric requirement is slowing the timing to place orders.
Comment by futuregains on Apr 16, 2021 10:01am
I don't have much experience in this area (electrical generation), but could fuel cells power the torches?
Comment by LastZaz on Apr 16, 2021 10:07am
I don't think we have reached that level of technology yet. These things require a lot of power. Maybe with another decade of HPQ nano tech development?? :P  I don't have much experience in this area (electrical generation), but could fuel cells power the torches?
Comment by BIGMOE on Apr 16, 2021 10:18am
The Province of Quebec has lots of electricty and they are the lowest cost producer, becaucase of Churchill Fall (New Foundland area).  All water fall and basically free electricy.
Comment by ElanS2 on Apr 16, 2021 11:09am
Yes Quebec ( Hydro Quebec, HQ, 100% owned by the Prov Gov ), is looking for markets for what is a temporary surplus of green energy. Churchill power goes south to HQ. That is not about to change. A surplus of green electricity exists 500 kms east of Lab City at Muskrat Falls ( the Lower Churchill). It is just coming on line and it presently has nowhere to go.  This is a repeat of the ...more  
Comment by ScienceFirst on Apr 16, 2021 10:12am
Renewable natural gas could provide electricity to plant, thanks to plasma. Quite possible that's why RNG is suddenly, out of nowhere, in the discussions.  We shall see soon what they intend to do with this, but for sure, that's a legitimate assumption worth considering, given what we read in this: RE:RE:Upcoming Natural Gas Renewable acquisition The syngas created ...more  
Comment by kidsactuator on Apr 16, 2021 10:17am
fuel cells are really efficient, but they require hydrogen gas, which is very energy intensive to make (you essentially have to do the fuel cell reaction in reverse). powering the torches with fuel cells doesn't make sense because then you'd still need a source of energy to separate hydrogen from water. fuel cells are best for portable things like vehicles, or when there is an abundant ...more  
Comment by Casavantsghost on Apr 16, 2021 10:27am
Good Sir, consider this.. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/company-harvest-green-hydrogen-underground-oil-fires