Energy from water, Is the impossible possible? First law of thermodynamics

Great post from @ commonsense that was a EBH2 skeptic now fully all in:

Agoracom: Small Cap Investment - HPQ-Silicon Resources Inc. - Re: First law of thermodynamics

I revised my opinion:

After doing some serious thinking and reading-up I come to the conclusion that the EBH2 system doesn't contradict the first law of thermodynamics. 

To put it short: the water that's coming in, isn't the exact same water as is coming out. Its a lot beter explained on this website from a competitor:

https://www.h2innovativelab.com

"Creating Energy? No. The abundant hydrogen atom is the fuel, this is simply a revolutionary, highly efficient method of releasing it from millions of tons of sea water".

Watched the latest video of Bernard 4 times to let it sink in. If this thing scales EBH2 will have a worldwide energy sollution. It doesn't need sun, it doesn't need wind, it just needs water and you have CO2 free energy. 

Do your own due diligence, but I'am in.

 

His original opinion post full of doubt:

As has been stated again and again on this forum the last days, this whole EBH2 system seems to good to be true and more importantly it seems to be denying the first law of thermodynamics: the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.

Or as PhantomSr wrote:

What I'm still not understanding is how they are splitting the hydrogen with a net positive energy output. This isn't physically possible without some sort of external energy input.

Electrolysis of water: 2 H2O + energy > 2 H2 + O2

Burning of hydrogen: 2 H2 + O2 > 2 H2O + energy.

The only logical explanation I can come up with is that water (most of the time) isn't pure H20. Some water for instance contains a small portion of H30 (hydroxonium). Seawater of course also contains a lot of salts.

So if the water going into the EBH2 isn't exactly the same water as is coming out,... the first law of thermodynamics wouldn't be denied and it could actually be possible...

but to be honest, I still remain skeptical.

Maybe they tricked Bernard, maybe EBH2 has a lunatic scientist making false claims very convincingly...

Bernard isn't a scientist, but luckily he has a M.B.A in finance and still knows how to make a deal. If the process isn't working HPQ loses nothing. Of coarse it would be a bit of an embarrassment, but what the heck. Get back up, and continue with the very promising silicon business. 

If it really turned out to work... it would mean the world energy problems are over and they can stop the ITER tokamak nuclear fusion project... and I can stop working and go sailing every day if I wanted to.