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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Pyrogenesis Canada Inc T.PYR

Alternate Symbol(s):  PYRGF

PyroGenesis Canada Inc. is a Canada-based high-tech company. The Company is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and commercialization of advanced plasma processes and sustainable solutions which reduce greenhouse gases. It offers patented and advanced plasma technologies that are used in four markets: iron ore palletization, aluminum, waste management, and additive manufacturing... see more

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Pyrogenesis Canada Inc > The return of LastZaz
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Post by LastZaz on Dec 02, 2021 11:14am

The return of LastZaz

My suggestion to those posting their concerns... stop panicking. There is clear manipulation to push SP down, and FUD is causing retail investors to sell off. I see similar issues in other small caps. No real reason for the drops. The market itself is quite volatile and likely will be for the foreseeable future. We may even see a market crash. But don't let that concern you if you are in for the long haul.

Many of us who added to our positions on the big run up to $12 must be upset, yes...

But don't let your emotions get the best of you. The prospects for this company are still there, the markets are still there, the business is still there, the growth is still there. If you do your due diligence, you can understand why these big deals are taking time. However, all signs indicate step by step Pyro is checking off the boxes and gradually these large iron ore pelletizers have every intention to adopt Pyro's torch technology.

Further, you have other potential business lines and growth opportunities supplementing revenue growth, such as the PFAS waste destruction, DROSRITE, and so on. All of these business lines, PYR has just started to scratch the surface... The reality is, if you are a forward thinking and long term investor, nothing has changed... there is a lot of potential here, and I think in time more institutional investors (and retail) will realize this. If you want to make money, you must be committed to your strategies and trust your due diligence. Concerning yourself over unrealized losses at this stage in Pyro's growth is silly to me. Put PYR in the back of your mind, look out for press releases, follow their financials and reassess every few months. Don't sit here clammoring over low volume price swings. We all know how fast the SP can bounce up. Remind yourself of why you invested in the company and get on with your life... keep saving your money and diversify to reduce your risk... and if you made mistakes with your buying/selling of PYR as a short term trader... accept your failures, learn from them and move on. 

As a long, I am not concerned as I worry about business operations, not share price when it comes to a growth story in such a unique business like PYR... GLTA.

Comment by fdfd12 on Dec 02, 2021 11:25am
LastZaz I disagree with you. There is a big valuation problem. You have a $700MM market cap doing less than $40MM in yearly sales. To keep up the stock price you need to show that you can get that revenue to at least $100MM yearly. Promises were made ($65MM in 6 months) and not delivered. Every week will drop around .15-.20 until contract come out. This is a first overall pick with potential ...more  
Comment by LastZaz on Dec 02, 2021 11:38am
You always seem to forget about potential being priced into a valuation... you know that valuation is never that simple when it comes to a growth tech company...   Right now the confidence in that potential is the only thing I can see that is pushing SP down - perhaps related to the volume of contracts flowing in, etc. So I don't entirely disagree with you, but again, your ...more  
Comment by fdfd12 on Dec 02, 2021 11:50am
OK fair enough. Let us challenge that. Look at STC a market cap of $400MM. It has great potential. It reported revenue of over $50MM last Q which makes it around $200MM for 1 year. $200MM revenue and $400MM CAP PYR $40MM revenue and $659MM CAP. Now you know why the shorts are jumping on this
Comment by LastZaz on Dec 02, 2021 12:00pm
1) Different type of company/nature of business. That's not how you compare valuations. 2) Ignores earnings 3) I can provide many examples of companies losing insane amounts of cash annually and having a larger market cap than PYR, which does not correlate with your argument.
Comment by fdfd12 on Dec 02, 2021 12:05pm
I never compared earnings. I compared revenues to Market Cap. I will inbox you privately on something. Let me write it up
Comment by BIGMOE on Dec 02, 2021 12:11pm
Stock marrket revenue and market cap does not make any sense. Baylin (BYL.TO) has 100 million in revenue but market cap 60 million.  So, your theory does not work.
Comment by fdfd12 on Dec 02, 2021 12:17pm
BIGMOE that is exactly my point. BYL  $100MM revenue and $60MM market Cap PYR $40MM revenue and $650MM market Cap Now that is WAY OVERVALUED, Exactly my point BIGMOE
Comment by LastZaz on Dec 02, 2021 12:19pm
You do know that revenue is not the only input for determining market cap right? 
Comment by fdfd12 on Dec 02, 2021 12:22pm
I know but some use revenue to market cap to see how much a stock is overvalued. We have been waiting for the big order a long time. Bottom line, hockey player once again. 1st pick overall who is scoring 5 goals a year for 2 years in a row. He has potential but how long do we wait. Maybe he is a bust
Comment by fdfd12 on Dec 02, 2021 12:26pm
LastZas please check your INBOX! Do you know how to?
Comment by BCONTVentures on Dec 02, 2021 5:13pm
Great post and points LastZaz, thanks for this. Note that Peter Pascali (PYR's President and CEO) has been with PyroGenesis since 1992 and owns approximately half of the outstanding shares.  Peter has invested millions of his own money (through private placements, etc.) to fund and support PyroGenesis.  This speaks volumes to the amount of support that Peter gives to PyroGenesis and ...more  
Comment by BCONTVentures on Sep 06, 2022 12:15pm
An older post worth re-reading and re-posting, thanks to LastZaz for this. Note that Peter Pascali (PYR's President and CEO) has been with PyroGenesis since 1992 and owns approximately half of the outstanding shares.  Peter has invested millions of his own money (through private placements, etc.) to fund and support PyroGenesis.  This speaks volumes to the amount of support that ...more  
Comment by sorrenson on Sep 06, 2022 12:29pm
When  "he"  wrote that the stock was 4 down from 12....its under 2 now and it looks like he ran  for cover in March.. But please do keep up the pumping...as the CEO keeps selling   with only 3 weeks till Brazil " news" Care to pick your excuse  now.?
Comment by BCONTVentures on Sep 06, 2022 12:51pm
What's your issue/problem there sorrenson?  If you don't like the direction of the company then sell your shares and move on.  But, you don't have any shares (who would constantly "talk down"/post garbage on a stock they own?) and most likely sorrenson is a shorter trying to keep the price down.  So carry on you classless act.
Comment by sorrenson on Sep 06, 2022 1:15pm
Sorry about reality.. If you're gonna repost someone else make sure the last message they posted  wasn't bailing out of stock market and going to cash. So please do explain why a shorter would want to keep a stock down.   They profit on the bounce then collapse when people realize  the pumping is just that . it was 12. Its 1.90...Im thinking the few shorters are well ...more  
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