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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum PyroGenesis Inc T.PYR

Alternate Symbol(s):  PYRGF

PyroGenesis Inc., formerly PyroGenesis Canada Inc., is a Canada-based high-tech company. The Company is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and commercialization of advanced plasma processes and sustainable solutions which reduce greenhouse gases (GHG). The Company has created proprietary, patented and advanced plasma technologies that are used in four markets: iron ore... see more

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PyroGenesis Inc > What is 5 Metric Tons of Titanium Powder worth?
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Post by cleareye on Jun 12, 2023 7:05am

What is 5 Metric Tons of Titanium Powder worth?

Just trying to understand the addition to the top line for PYR if they sell 5 tons of "high quality" titanium powder for 3D printing.

Is it worth $200/kg, or $400/kg, or $600/kg adding 1 million or 2 million or 3 million to revenue?

cleareye.
Comment by filoux004 on Jun 12, 2023 7:21am
Good morning, Cleareye,  you do realize your question as actual numbers/assumptions. Chances are very high it will never be answered. DD and glta 
Comment by MrForthright on Jun 12, 2023 10:30am
The revenue will not be a material amount. We know that for a fact as 3XP was trading PYR at the time fo the release. 
Comment by Uncleron on Jun 12, 2023 12:19pm
@ $200 per Kg ( min )  that's $2.200.000 millions..for the 11 ton order...That's 1 machine...pretty good for the first ever AM powder sale ...No one expected such a large first time sale...this goes to show the quality of the powder..and the satisfaction the customer has with the  powder..This sale is just the ' tip of the iceberg ' more machines will have to be built for ...more  
Comment by tamaracktop on Jun 12, 2023 1:32pm
IperionX Limited (“IperionX”) (Nasdaq | ASX: IPX), is pleased to announce that it has completed detailed engineering design for the planned 125 metric tonnes per annum (“tpa”) Titanium Demonstration Facility (“TDF”), previously announced in September 2022, and a Techno-Economic Assessment for an expansion into the Company’s first Titanium Commercial Facility (“TCF-1”) of 1,125 tpa located at the ...more  
Comment by filoux004 on Jun 12, 2023 1:44pm
Thanks TT you the man. You mean there is competition. DD and glta
Comment by tamaracktop on Jun 12, 2023 1:48pm
"The industry in which the Company operates is competitive, and PyroGenesis competes with a substantial number of companies which have greater technical and financial resources."
Comment by Sidewindergo on Jun 13, 2023 12:03pm
Titanium powder is not created equal.
Comment by developbc on Jun 13, 2023 4:34pm
You can bet someone at GE(PYR's old tech) had some sleepless nights when Peter annouced that Pyro will be able to make and ship any type of metal powder to an end user, cheaper than they could manufacture it themselves on site Long and strong PYR!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by cleareye on Jun 13, 2023 5:53pm
Thanks to everyone for their answers. It makes sense that pyr's price should be at the low end, along with their cost of production guidance/advantage. cleareye.
Comment by cleareye on Jun 13, 2023 9:59am
This was an honest question. I would have assumed that someone on this board knows what the titanium powder is worth per kg. If someone knows, please pass it along. Thank you, cleareye.
Comment by tamaracktop on Jun 13, 2023 10:34am
Pure titanium powder is about $200/kg
Comment by HARJAY on Jun 13, 2023 11:01am
Can anyone verify what top is s saying with a link to  a site that is credible.  
Comment by Sidewindergo on Jun 13, 2023 12:02pm
The cheapest price you'll find for gas atomized TI64 is around $200/kg. Pyros powder is plasma atomized and thus higher quality. We do not know the sale price but Pyro has stated they can profitably sell below competitor production costs. https://kbmadvanced.com/tekmat-ti64-53-20-g23/
Comment by gojotv! on Jun 13, 2023 6:45pm
They'll have to keep the prices pretty low... With titanium selling for $6.50 per pound right now, it would be tempting for manufactureres to just machine their parts if powders start to run too high... But let's say that PYR manages to sell its powders at $200/lb... That would make a 5 metric tonne order worth $2,204,000. Hardly the pie-in-the-sky numbers we're hearing from the ...more  
Comment by developbc on Jun 13, 2023 7:11pm
Your math is completely wrong.  By YOUR OWN numbers os $200/lb = $441/kg  which for 5 ton order that is $22M not $2.2M Long and strong PYR!!!!!!!!!
Comment by developbc on Jun 13, 2023 7:13pm
Sorry was thinking of 10 more orders of 5 tons which is $22M.   Client already said possible 6M more anyways.  This is just 1 NexGen machine that can run 24/7 at 25kg/hr production rate Long and strong PYR!!!!!!
Comment by ElanS2 on Jun 13, 2023 9:21pm
You are comparing apples and eggs. Titanium powder is used to print things in shapes that are not obtainable by machining or casting. This is a new game.
Comment by ElanS2 on Jun 13, 2023 9:22pm
You are comparing apples and eggs. Titanium powder is used to print things in shapes that are not obtainable by machining or casting. This is a new game.
Comment by MrForthright on Jun 13, 2023 9:32pm
I would like to remind everyone that the 5 metric tons referred to in a recent PYR news release will not generate a material amount of revenues for PYR. How do we know? We know for a fact because at the time 3XP was trading the stock and there is no way this guy committed insider trading, no way (although some wrongly accused him of this here). 
Comment by gojotv! on Jun 14, 2023 12:46pm
They won't need a lot of titanium powder for those rare parts which "are not obtainable by machining or casting" now, will they? Clearly, every part on a plane can be cast or machined, or there would be no planes. Pumpers have gotten so hypnotized by their "pie-in-the-sky" stories that they have lost the ability to think things through. Analysis, gentlemen, second only ...more  
Comment by Breizh1 on Jun 14, 2023 7:48am
Peanuts is the answer, if it is a one time order.
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