Post by
cabbieJBJ on Oct 08, 2021 9:14am
Today
I'm prepared for today to be a non event, VirnetX precedent notwithstanding. I will not read it as either positive or negative unless the court says unequivocally to either side that "you are full of$hit!". I will listen very closely to what is said though.
Comment by
v_guerriero on Oct 08, 2021 9:27am
It will be telling if Chief Judge Kimberly Moore cuts off Apple counsel during opening argument.
Comment by
SixMileLake777 on Oct 08, 2021 10:02am
Nonevent. OK I will be pesimistic too. Non event like every other Wilan event. There. Na Na Na Skid
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Oct 08, 2021 10:05am
I'm not being pessemistic. Skid, why are you here?
Comment by
SixMileLake777 on Oct 08, 2021 10:07am
Becasue I am one of 49 waiting for this to start, and I have 45,000 or so shares I would like to make money on and I am very tired...... Skid
Comment by
SixMileLake777 on Oct 08, 2021 10:11am
are we at 10 Am room 201?
Comment by
SixMileLake777 on Oct 08, 2021 10:16am
They are not talking Wilan Apple.
Comment by
ChiChi3 on Oct 08, 2021 10:21am
Skid, it appears there are 3 cases that they have to get through before noon (I think). Wilan/Apple is listed 3rd so I'd suspect us to go on between 11 and 11:30. The audio is rolling on the first case - seems VERY simple relative to our case. I'm also not expecting much stock price movement coming out of this but I'd like to be pleasantly surprised. Chi
Comment by
SixMileLake777 on Oct 08, 2021 10:25am
That is what I thought. Waiting.....
Comment by
whaler83 on Oct 08, 2021 10:48am
Story of our life with this investment. Waited this long. Why not wait a few more hours to get our day in appellant court.
Comment by
whaler83 on Oct 08, 2021 10:59am
Even if we win this it will likely be off to SCOTUS we go.
Comment by
wilander on Oct 08, 2021 11:01am
SCOTUS wont hear it. This is Apples last stop on the litigation train.
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Oct 08, 2021 11:03am
0.001% chance this goes to the SCOTUS either way Whaler. CAFC is the last step; the losing party can only request an en banc hearing (considered by the full CAFC court). Even en banc hearing requests are rarely granted.
Comment by
whaler83 on Oct 08, 2021 11:09am
Well that's atleast good to hear
Comment by
v_guerriero on Oct 08, 2021 11:18am
Yes. Judge Moore can signal in the court room the way the court is leaning. As she did in that case. She is the feisty Chief Judge. She essentially said in the VirnetX case that if we remand, you are asking us to draw this out for 10 years in total which is inappropriate.
Comment by
cabbieJBJ on Oct 08, 2021 11:24am
Interesting Chi. I thought that Potter would prevail, based on the appearance that the record reflected neither the landscape at the DVA at the time that the position was withdrawn nor the credibility of the claim that the fact that she had been very critical of senior management had no bearing on the decision to withdraw the position.
Comment by
wilander on Oct 08, 2021 10:22am
we are third in line. When we are up, someone be sure to post it on the message board. I willdo the same. Checking in and out until then. Panel M: Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:00 A.M., Courtroom 201 Judges: Moore, Bryson, & Prost 21-1460 Potter v. DVA 21-1624 Bailey v. US 20-2011 Apple Inc. v. Wi-LAN Inc.
Comment by
SixMileLake777 on Oct 08, 2021 12:24pm
Well Cabbie I agree now. Non event because I have no idea what will happen Skid