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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Quarterhill Inc T.QTRH

Alternate Symbol(s):  QTRHF | T.QTRH.DB

Quarterhill Inc. is a Canada-based company, which is engaged in providing of tolling and enforcement solutions in the intelligent transportation system (ITS) industry. The Company is focused on the acquisition, management and growth of companies that provide integrated, tolling and mobility systems and solutions to the ITS industry as well as its adjacent markets. The Company’s solutions... see more

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Quarterhill Inc > Did judges wimp out?
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Post by moneyguy87 on Feb 08, 2022 4:30pm

Did judges wimp out?

Been meaning to ask this for a few days.

I thought that the issue of infringement had already been determined - a few times.  There had already been jury decisions of what Apple owed........and that was what Apple was fighting........and what the judges were to determine.

Why didn't the judges do that -  state the amount?

It seems they wimped out.........intimidated by Apple??? 

Even if they didn't agree with how QTRH was suggesting the settlement should be determined.......make a determination.  Wasn't that their job???

Thanks
M87
Comment by mrmoribund on Feb 08, 2022 4:59pm
There was a determination of infringement but only at the lower court. This is one of the things that Apple was appealing. Did the judges wimp out with regard to amount owed? I don't think so. It was clear in the hearing last October that they didn't like the idea of it going back to a 3rd damages trial. They wanted to confirm an amount. But, in fairness, they did the right thing because ...more  
Comment by Lazaros on Feb 08, 2022 5:54pm
And it didn't help that Skippen's own testimony was used against WiLan re: wheat and chaff. WiLan also couldn't explain how they determined the 1% they were asking for. The judge asked why not 2% or 0.5%? Again, no reasonable answer. I can't fault the court on this one.
Comment by redcoats on Feb 08, 2022 6:56pm
It's a tough one. Is it worth 0.5%, 1%, 2%, 5%, that the device won't do what customers purchased it to do, without using the infringed technology?
Comment by mrmoribund on Feb 08, 2022 8:12pm
Valid question and it's common sense that it should be worth something meaningful as a fraction of the price of the device. But courts love things that connect together in concrete ways. I've wondered how it might play out if Wilan just came to a jury and said something like, oh: "The phone doesn't work anywhere near as well (and give them a demo) without our IP and 1% of the ...more  
Comment by onlygame on Feb 08, 2022 5:00pm
Totally agree moneyguy87 How many times does a jury rule, only to be thrown away. and to do it all over again and again. Now hopefully, third times a charm. But APPL  can appeal yet again? A bit of a joke if it wasn't so disgusting.
Comment by mrmoribund on Feb 08, 2022 6:06pm
I agree it's a bit disgusting and clearly the CAFC wasn't enthusiastic about sending it back to another damages trial. But, actually, it was Wilan's fault. The jury is, in a sense, sacred but their findings are deemed worthless if their conclusions can be shown to have been reliant on "evidence" or arguments that didn't have a sound basis. Wilan's experts presented ...more  
Comment by Cdnmate23 on Feb 09, 2022 10:33am
I've seen a number of comments about the re-trial being '2 years away'.  Where is that coming from, precedence?  Its hard analyze where this is all going to go; how can Wi-lan be sold with this significant unknown value associated with it?  I do not see the logic from any side of this suit wanting further extension of drama by 2 years.  I would think some kind of ...more  
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