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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Surge Energy Inc (Alberta) T.SGY

Alternate Symbol(s):  ZPTAF | T.SGY.DB.B

Surge Energy Inc. is a Canada-based oil focused exploration and production (E&P) company. The Company's business consists of the exploration, development and production of oil and gas from properties in Western Canada. It holds focused and operated light and medium gravity crude oil properties in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, characterized by large oil in place crude oil reservoirs with... see more

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Surge Energy Inc (Alberta) > SURGE SGY Buys Astra & FireSky then RJ says $12 SGY price ta
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Post by CanadianOil2022 on Nov 13, 2021 8:33pm

SURGE SGY Buys Astra & FireSky then RJ says $12 SGY price ta

$12 Price target for Surge energy SGY after it bought Both Astra and Fire Sky (private equity) even some months ago were starting to make a lot of money with their southeast SK wells....they are very cheap to drill, and very prolific. Very high returns or these wells.  So high, in fact, that both Astra and Fire Sky were starting to pay income taxes to Canada on their profits....up to 20% rate I think....if I remember from looking at the merger docs.

How do you stop paying high income taxes on profits?  As an oil company. Especially when you want to keep drilling, and envision making even more profits from your drills? You get a company with $500+ milllion NOL carryforwards (good for the next 10 years) to "buy" you out.

All oil and gas wells eventually have to be P & A - but not as long as they keep producing.
So this "expense" should be viewed in conjunction with the O & G reserves of the company in question.

Surge issued $200 million of its stock to these 2companies for their SK assets and production. These profitable companies own a significant percentage of Suyrge stock. They went into this deal with Surge with their eyes wide open....it was also  good deal for Surge as it made their bankers happier; it was a good deal for these 2 companies as ultimately I expect them or the private equity behind them to acquire the majority of stock in Surge and run the company in 2 years when Paul leaves. They will then have the publically traded Surge corporate shell and other long term producing assets.

I think this will all work out in the end.  The$500 million NOLs are worth about 20 cents on the dollar - or about $100 million in themselves -- to an acquirer if at some point you eventually have the taxable gains to even them out. and fully utilize them.  But again, these NOLs are good for another 10 years or so before they expire -- so they will probably end up being fully used over the next 10 years  These NOLS in themselves add another $100 million value to the Surge enterprise to an acquirer.  Fire Sky and Astra are basically acquiring Surge at this point - not the other way around.

I am looking for Surge stock price to eventually double from here.  Maybe not aparent now while the stock is under pressure - we may be starting to see some tax loss selling even now given the history of this stock and the fact it is way down from its highs of a few years ago - but I think if OIL prices hold around $75 WTI by this time next year stock will be up100 %. So I have bought a lot of this.

But hey - 1 year from now if prices stay anywhere where they are now a ton of money will be paid back to the bankers and Surge financials will look much much much better than presently and Surge will probably even be paying a dividend again.

Paul is eventually exiting out  and wants out at $10 a share -- which is quite doable if prices hold at $70-$75 WTI - which I think likely
Comment by Jamesedgar1 on Nov 13, 2021 9:35pm
All longs here are cheering for Surge, but your constant typing reeks of panic and desperation for your own past betting mistakes! GLTA
Comment by CanadianOil2022 on Nov 15, 2021 12:06am
Raymond James says 160% Higher $12/Share Surge Energy Report:  SURGE SGY Buys Astra & FireSky then RJ says $12 SGY price target $12 Price target for Surge energy SGY after it bought Both Astra and Fire Sky (private equity) even some months ago were starting to make a lot of money with their southeast SK wells....they are very cheap to drill, and very prolific. Very high returns ...more  
Comment by CanadianOil2022 on Nov 16, 2021 10:50pm
SURGE SGY Buys Astra & FireSky then RJ says $12 SGY price target Josh Young bought surge energy shares smart oil analytics  Raymond James says 160% Higher $12/Share Surge Energy Report:  SURGE SGY Buys Astra & FireSky then RJ says $12 SGY price target $12 Price target for Surge energy SGY after it bought Both Astra and Fire Sky (private equity) even some ...more  
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