Post by
pennylane101 on Dec 10, 2024 10:16am
Reading the tea leaves...
The level at which the units are trading looks like there might be a buyout or who knows, a recovery? If this were heading to CCAA or bankruptcy, the units would be trading at 4 or 5 cents.
Comment by
ABDPhil on Dec 10, 2024 12:14pm
With 80,000,000 shares outstanding, the company is already at zero, whether the SP is at 5 or 50 cents. Now, the risk is on the bonds, and where the next event will occur. However, that will not stop them from increasing a few dollars...before the collapse.
Comment by
Tree2tree on Dec 11, 2024 10:12am
HR thanks for clarifying. If indeed the Welches are still 'in the game' and working on a competing proposal, that could be a good thing as it would push GA and friends to come up with a better deal.
Comment by
HRc60to65 on Dec 11, 2024 10:16am
I hope a better deal may come. I sold at lost my 81 000 sot.unit at 0.40$ yesterday to the buyer of 160 000 sot.unit I bought more than 125 000$ of debentures to replace my sot.un, now I am holding more than 1 300 000$ debentures a mix of 9%, 7.5% and 5.5%.
Comment by
pennylane101 on Dec 11, 2024 10:37am
Wow, your total holdings of the Slate debentures is a huge vote of confidence. This gives me hope. I would have had more but most of my purchases happened before the crash. I have less than half. I'm cashed out with Slate.
Comment by
HRc60to65 on Dec 11, 2024 1:33pm
My avg is below 39$/100$ of debenture. My DD shows me that the debentures are almost covered with assets, the worst case is 70$/100$. The sot.un has more risk and may had more rewards. Two days with a lot of buyers for the sot.un, yesterday 165K and today 380K at 0.40$/unit.
Comment by
pennylane101 on Dec 11, 2024 6:02pm
I got my average cost down to 37. It has occurred to me that I could lose it all. Luckily I didn't put all my beans into Slate. Long term Provincial and Municipal bonds make up a large part, I would say 95%, of my investment portfolio. I know, so boring. You have no idea how much stress Slate has caused me. ;0)
Comment by
Northforce13 on Dec 11, 2024 8:03pm
"I got my average cost down to 37. It has occurred to me that I could lose it all. Luckily I didn't put all my beans into Slate. Long term Provincial and Municipal bonds make up a large part, I would say 95%, of my investment portfolio. I know, so boring. " 25% of net worth (portfolio + real estate) here Concentration investor
Comment by
HRc60to65 on Dec 12, 2024 4:16pm
Artis new Artis stock price has dropped in the last few days to 7.31$/sh. The 520M$ Facilities can be utilized for general corporate purposes, including the acquisition or development of additional income producing properties and can be drawn in Canadian or US dollars. I hope the dream come thrue, Artis may buy Slate Office Trust. Holding 7 000 AX.UN, SOT.DB, SOT.DB.B and SOT.DB.A
Comment by
HRc60to65 on Dec 12, 2024 5:41pm
Shareholders of Dream Office Real Estate Investment Trust T.D.UN are thinking Artis will bought T.D.UN. Artis is owning 24% of Dream Buying Dream is a better deal than buying SOT for Artis but concentrated in Toronto
Comment by
TVR on Dec 13, 2024 12:27pm
Artis has no intention of buying Dream Office REIT or merging with them. They are simply investors looking to push a sale or other transaction that will make them money. Artis cannot afford to take on the Dream Office REIT debt any more than it can afford to take on the SOT.UN debt.
Comment by
InvestSmarter on Dec 13, 2024 12:35pm
Artis will not Buy Dream Office. Artis owns too much office as it is. I agree with the other poster they will push D into a sale, rather than buying D outright. Artis needs to add some Residential, industrial, or Retail to its portfolio. Their options are endless right now. Having said that, Samir has a history with Senior Housing.
Comment by
pennylane101 on Dec 13, 2024 11:04am
Yeah, okay. so Dream Office Reit owns expensive Class A buildings in urban centres. They are still struggling.