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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Superior Plus Corp T.SPB

Alternate Symbol(s):  SUUIF

Superior Plus Corp. is a Canada-based distributor of propane, compressed natural gas, renewable energy and related products and services. Through its primary businesses, propane distribution and CNG, RNG and hydrogen distribution, it delivers clean burning fuels to residential, commercial, utility, agricultural and industrial customers. Its segments include U.S. Retail Propane Distribution (U.S... see more

TSX:SPB - Post Discussion

Superior Plus Corp > Thirteen Million Shares
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Post by Schussing56 on May 15, 2023 8:25am

Thirteen Million Shares

I checked the insider report for Superior again this morning, in my brokerage account's information section. The M&B sale is clearly listed but, under buyer, it merely says "private sale" so, if others on this site are adamant that it was CIBC Wood Gundy that bought the shares they must be privy to information that is not available to the general public. Anyway, it doesn't really matter who bought the shares. I'm more interested in why M&B sold, and, at a loss. M&B is a private company, currently in control of roughly US $1.18 trillion worth of equities so, the sale isn't particularly material to their overall business model but still, losing $26 million has been enough for some financial manager to get the axe.
Comment by bttmfischer on May 15, 2023 11:47am
As you pointed out some time ago, Marquard and Bahl's website did report the sale of April 23rd. Those two posters ignoring that as the governing report of the sale of 13 million shares, do not know that two half-wits do not a whole make.
Comment by pennydredful on May 15, 2023 8:18pm
Perhaps   they   were   rebuffed  by the company  if and   when  they asked   for   a seat  on the  BOD  ?     so  decided   to  sell  ?    A   question   will   be   whether   they  come back  and ...more  
Comment by Schussing56 on May 16, 2023 8:36am
Here is the official news release regarding the M&B sale of Superior shares: An unknown buyer acquired 6.48% stake in Superior Plus Corp. (TSX:SPB) from Marquard & Bahls AG for approximately CAD 130 million on April 25, 2023. Marquard & Bahls sold stake through a private sale agreement at price of CAD 9.79 per share and a total consideration of CAD 127.27 million. Notice that the ...more  
Comment by pennydredful on May 16, 2023 9:53am
Wood   Gundy    were  in effect   acting   as agent   to   resale   the  shares   ,  however   since   they   bot   them    in effect    they    guaranteed   all  the shares   would be sold .   They ...more  
Comment by JamieDimon on May 16, 2023 4:01pm
 pennydredful, there is no sense in trying to explain things to them. they don't know. they will never know. and their $5000 accounts wouldn't ever warrant a call from a broker
Comment by pennydredful on May 16, 2023 6:47pm
You  are right  .  Reminds   me  of a song:    I  forgot more than you  will  ever  know about.........
Comment by Schussing56 on May 16, 2023 8:58pm
Here is rule #5 for block share sales involving Canadian companies, from page 30 of the TMX rulebook: Issuance of Exchange Bulletin—The Exchange shall issue a bulletin respecting the proposed sale from control which bulletin will contain the name of the seller, the number of securities of the listed company held by the seller, the number proposed to be sold, and any other information that the ...more  
Comment by pennydredful on May 16, 2023 10:08pm
the  sale   does  not  qualify   under  this section   as   it   is   not   a sale  from  " control"  .The  word   control  means  roughly  they   control  the company  and   an   entity  in  "control ...more  
Comment by Schussing56 on May 16, 2023 11:56pm
No, I think you've got this wrong Dreadful, just like you got the information about CIBC in the SEDI report wrong. "Control" is merely referring to how many shares the listing company has control over. The ruling goes on to state that the listing company must declare how many shares it owns, and there is nothing stating whether they need to own a certain number of shares for the rule ...more  
Comment by pennydredful on May 17, 2023 9:49am
They  filed  an  Early   Warning   report   as  required on   website   SEDAR  .  CIBC   Wood Gundy   is   an  older  name  while  CIBC   world   markets    is a newer  name  they   adopted.  .  IMO    ...more  
Comment by Baystboy07 on May 17, 2023 10:36am
You all should all the IR dude and get your questions answered. Block sale was done....M&B got $9.79 on the sale...CIBC charged them a 3% commission. Shares were placed by CIBC to institutional investors on a bought deal basis I believe. Call and ask the IR guy..he is listed in the $SPB website
Comment by bttmfischer on May 17, 2023 1:03pm
Where is the 3 percent cimmission CIBC received stated? What is the credible source of this statement? How do you know that iy was 3%? It is on the high side.  Were you PERSONNALLY  INVOLVED IN ANY PART OF THIS TRANSACTION and claimed to be the "reliable source"? If you were, than YOU SHOULD KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE BUYER. We all know who the seller was. This guessing is ...more  
Comment by Baystboy07 on May 17, 2023 5:54pm
No need to shout...and stop being ignorant...as I indicated call the IR guy at $SPB and ask. He will confirm all this information. Rob Dorran  Tel: 416-340-6003  
Comment by pennydredful on May 17, 2023 2:08pm
CIBC   had  nothing  to  file  on SEDI    as   the shares   they   bought  and  re sold   were  less   than  10%   so   they   never  were  an   insider. 
Comment by Schussing56 on May 17, 2023 7:18pm
It's my understanding that, under the Universal Market Integrity Rules (UMIR), insiders and significant shareholders are treated the same and subject to the same reporting requirements.
Comment by pennydredful on May 17, 2023 8:09pm
nope .  Many  institutions  are  exempt  from   filing   insider  trading   reports  even  when  they   own  more  than   10%   the   normal threshhold  for  filing  insider  reports  unless  you  are a director or senior  officer. The ...more  
Comment by pennydredful on May 17, 2023 8:13pm
The   phrase   you  use   " significant shareholder"   is   totally   imprecise   so  useless    unless  quantified  .
Comment by Schussing56 on May 17, 2023 9:01pm
The Canadian Securities market is highly unregulated. Within Canada, every province has its own rules. Here is what UMIR states: For further clarification, reference must be made to the securities legislation of every jurisdiction in which the issuer is a reporting issuer or equivalent. In my opinion, there is no question that M&B are significant shareholders but, it appears as if such a ...more  
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