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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum STUDENT TRANSPORTATION INC 5.25 PCT DEBS T.STB.DB.A

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STUDENT TRANSPORTATION INC 5.25 PCT DEBS > A few questions for the regulars ...
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Post by emba33 on Aug 14, 2015 1:22am

A few questions for the regulars ...

Hi Folks: I have a significant position in STB ... and it was supposed to be a stable dividend payer for me. I averaged down recently. A few questions for the regulars ... 1) Although most BULL BOARDERS do not feel the dividend will be cut -- higher dividends often lead to trimming. If the dividend gets cut, do you think STB would go up or down in price? 2) Why do you think the stock price has been punished so much recently without much of a chance in fundamentals? Your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks, Emba33
Comment by mike06 on Aug 14, 2015 9:26am
1) DOWN without a doubt. 2) Dividend cut fears. Easily manipulated stock (with well documented history of this). Downgrades. Lack of recent significant news. Not understanding the company / "quick look" poor fundamentals (ie astronomical PE ratio and 10+ % dividend). Large institutional share dumping. Take your pick of any/all of those reasons.
Comment by righand2 on Aug 14, 2015 10:18am
Have to agree with all of your points. But you have to add the fact that the dividend may never be raised, and most investors like a company with the potential for higher dividends in the future. But at these prices, the risk seems reasonable. I don't really expect a dividend cut.
Comment by emba33 on Aug 17, 2015 7:25pm
Hi mike06 and righand2: With most stocks, the high yielding dividend stocks get pushed down when investors feel a yield is likely to be reduced (partially because the yield is no longer helping to keep the stock price higher).  Also, we have seen several cases where a dividend cut actually causes the price to go up -- presumably becauset he uncertainty has been removed. What makes both of ...more  
Comment by jammo71 on Aug 17, 2015 9:18pm
In response to #1, the idea of a dividend cut because the market is pricing it in is certainly not a rarity, but consider the history - STB has not reduced their dividend, ever. The price has been significantly lower that today's prices and the dividend stayed the same. So it's possible they'll reduce it now, but the track record indicates they won't. In response to #2, a trusted ...more  
Comment by emba33 on Aug 17, 2015 10:11pm
re:STB has not reduced their dividend, ever Sounds like Crescent Point last week ... up to the last minute, they claimed they would not cut.  They might argue that they would not need to go to market as much if they were reinvesting some of that revenue.  Even a cut in half would leave a good dividend.  I am certainly not wishing for this, because I have a meaningful stake in this ...more  
Comment by jammo71 on Aug 18, 2015 7:20am
Lots of things sound liek lots of things, and if you follow incongruent examples too often you can get into trouble. Companies do cut dividends to satisfy the market's expectation that they will, there's no question. My only point is that STB has traded lower that this (under $4 in summer of '09) and did not cut their dividend then, so what would be the reasoning for doing so now ...more  
Comment by FSComeau on Aug 19, 2015 3:37pm
STB's dividend is covered by their cash flow however......................
Comment by carmech on Aug 19, 2015 5:50pm
The dividend is not unreasonably high, the price of the stock is unreasonably low, thus creating a high yeild.
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Comment by emba33 on Aug 19, 2015 10:26pm
Hi carmech: For what this is worth ... I've heard many analysts say that, in general, a stock should not be falling that much if the market really feels the yield is sustainable.    Emba33
Comment by Franko13 on Aug 19, 2015 10:59pm
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