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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading, offshore oil and gas production, petroleum refining in Canada and the United States and its Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Suncor Energy Inc > Management decisions
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Post by Obscure1 on Jul 22, 2021 10:56am

Management decisions

When you are part of the decision making process for a public company, you have all of the information, all of the metrics, and you know all of the alternative use of funds.

Billions of dollars are at stake when decisions are made by companies that operate on the scale of SU. 

Decisions become obvious as they work through the process.

Major companies have the ability to hire the best of the best and pay them very well to make the best decisions for the company. 

The concept of a management group "lining its pockets" at the expense of shareholders is as juvenile as the concept of trying to bribe Lebron to throw a game.  If the company succeeds, management should be rewarded for its success because they are the ones in the trenches.  If management doesn't succeed, it is the job of the BoD to replace management.

The decisions that SU's management made last year (when they took heavy write downs and lost $4.5 billion) were good decisions for the long term health of the company.  If things hadn't turned around so quickly and unexpectedly for the better, the difficult decisions made to severely cut back on spending (including the dividend cut) would have helped the company to live another day when other companies would have perished.  Everybody is a genius in hindsight.

This year, the management team has a different set of circumstances to deal with, and they are once again making decisions in the best interest of the company.   When fund managers are making poor ESG decisions influenced by their misinformed investors who are in turn manipulated by a clueless media, it is the job of SU's management to take advantage of the situation.

When I read posts from shareholders whining about the dividend, it makes me grateful for the people that do know what they are doing.

For the life of me, I can't understand why shareholders whine about companies they have invested in.  Just sell and move on as there are thousands of alternatives.
Comment by Fishermen on Jul 22, 2021 11:52am
Just human nature, we gamble our money in these stocks for returns . Nobody cares if the companies would close their doors tomorrow.
Comment by angelnicky on Jul 22, 2021 12:00pm
you must working with management taking in the rewards 
Comment by highalpha1 on Jul 22, 2021 12:50pm
@angelnicky: If you don't like the decisions that SU management are making, then, sell your stock and move on. Holding a stock on any day is equivalent to re-buying that same stock on that day's price. You sound like a fool when you propagate nonsense or accuse people of being an insider. And, you know what they say, "a fool and his money are soon parted". Long SU. I expect them ...more  
Comment by angelnicky on Jul 22, 2021 2:35pm
i do not sell shares i relied on div , my pension it was taken away 
Comment by highalpha1 on Jul 22, 2021 2:55pm
@angelnicky: I appreciate your predicament. However, you do realize that there are other dividend paying companies (with relatively high yields) than investing in SU. SU is in the energy sector (the most volatiale sector on the TSX. If you're looking for steady dividend income, I would suggest thinking about a telco company (e.g., BCE or T) or a midstream energy company (e.g., TC or ENB). Most ...more  
Comment by Vlosun on Jul 22, 2021 4:05pm
3 1/2 years to be first january 2025 to be exact. Not so long and first january 2024 you will be around 0,42 per quarter.