Post by
Obscure1 on Jan 16, 2022 8:21pm
I wonder if CNQ could take over SU
I was looking at an overlay of the 5 year charts of SU and CNQ (yahoo.com>>>SU:to>>>full screem>>>5 year chart>>>comparison>>>add CNQ)
SU traded at a premium to CNQ for two years leading up to the pandemic.
It is easy to understand CNQ coming back faster than SU as oil prices moved up. However, with SU's downstream running at about 93% of pre-covid levels in Q3 and certainly higher in Q4, there is no logical BUSINESS explanation for the divergence that we are seeing in the share price of the two companies.
The dramatic reduction of the SHORT position on SU was very revealing imo. I eagerly look forward to seeing the updated short position on SU as of Jan 15th as I think it will either confirm that the shorts have left for easier targets, or we are in for more of the same. I can't imagine that shorts would be wanting to swim upstream against SU's Q4 numbers, but I have been wrong before (more than I can count).
I have to wonder if the SU BoD aggressively worked its NCIB in 2021 and then doubled down on the NCIB when it reported its Q3 numbers out of concern that the company is a takeover target. Anyone can see that the street hates SU (if you can't, go to the link above for a clear picture).
CNQ started benefitting from the rebound in the price of oil and nat gas well before SU and it continues to gush cash today. It wouldn't surprise me at all in CNQ decided to use some of that cash to start mopping up SU shares.
CVE absorbed Husky when the pandemic hit. Husky had been hammered by the crash in oil prices, but so had CVE. As such, I think it was a merger of convenience/opportunity.
The SU share price has obviously rebounded since the early days of the pandemic, but CNQ has almost lapped SU.
Imagine a bigger CNQ with its superior mgmt team operating 1.5mm barrels per day with SU's upgraders and refineries and downstream. Now that would be a powerhouse.
Comment by
sledig on Jan 16, 2022 9:26pm
Yes will see what the short position does, I think covering has occurred. What got me back into Suncor was the dividend increased back to previous. With this divergence I'm buying Cnq swallowing su. Big pill to choke down. Interesting though. Gl
Comment by
alvarez2 on Jan 16, 2022 9:43pm
..........My speculation is that at current oil prices, a solid earnings report in Feb and announcement that they will be increasing the dividend..............this stock should fly.
Comment by
sledig on Jan 16, 2022 10:31pm
Totally agree. Onward and upward
Comment by
jx7000 on Jan 17, 2022 4:38pm
Agreed. It'd be nice to see a divy increase or maybe a one-time special div payout, if that's at all possible?
Comment by
w8asec on Jan 17, 2022 7:41pm
YES - A one time special Divy is allowed/possible, and would be a great move on the BOD's part. ...and this would be ideal timing coinciding with year end... that way it's a one time payment and not an increase affecting the future payouts which are already high enough at 4.65%. Shorts hate that move.
Comment by
Experienced on Jan 17, 2022 7:58pm
History has shown that one time dividend payouts are a bad idea. I very much doubt that this idea is on the table at the SU BOD...
Comment by
w8asec on Jan 18, 2022 12:55am
I think your history is for shiit, as I have seen it work well many times.... H3ll of a poor generalization, don't you think with over 10,000 public companies in the world, all having done many things.... good luck trading
Comment by
mrbb on Jan 18, 2022 6:48am
i'll take more capital gain over an one time special dividend, namely less tax. Special tax rewards short term holders, they'll exit SU when they got the prize. Captial gain reward loyal investors.